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Topic: Specifics please
Posted by: Francis Rowe
Date/Time: 07/01/14 19:26:00

Unfortunately, Patrick Barr's partisan triumphalism only serves to give a measure of credence to Thomas Barry's negativity.

Firstly, the success achieved on the Turnham Green issue was mainly down to a broad based and persistent non-political campaign to which members of all parties gave important support.

People will recognise that given the timing of the announcement and the holiday period further details of the process of introducing the stop are not going to be released immediately. The vagueness of the current situation is understandable but in the next couple of months to maintain credibility the Mayor will need to provide further specifics.

The following questions will need answers.

Is TfL's intention to go straight from the very limited Piccadilly line service at the moment to a full service when the upgrade takes place or will the service at TG be progressively expanded in the interim?

If the latter, have TfL already started to plan for this and if not when will they start doing so and when can we expect the first expansion of the service?

Please can you ask TfL to precisely define what they mean by upgrade? As I understand it the improvement to local tube service will be organic rather than revolutionary with tracks, stations, signals and rolling stock all being upgraded at different times. What particular upgrade marks the point at which TG will definitely get a full service?

Are there other interim upgrades at which the TG service will be improved short of providing a full service?

If the upgrade is delayed is there any contingency to accelerate the improvement of the TG service short of a full service?

Can we assume with the introduction of Crossrail in early 2019 a significant improvement in the TG service will take place due to the reduction of passengers going to Heathrow, regardless of the progress of the upgrade?

These are sufficiently general questions that ought to have been resolved by now under any strategic plan. If you are unable to provide proper answers to them by the end of March then we would have to concede that Thomas Barry may actually be right and this announcement is just a shallow political manoeuvre. You will get short shrift from your constituents come May if you dare to come to them claiming credit for an achievement which remains just a vague promise of jam some time next decade.


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Bad news for Turnham Green Piccadilly stop31/12/13 12:09:00 Thomas Barry
   Re:Bad news for Turnham Green Piccadilly stop31/12/13 14:10:00 Guy Lambert
      Re:Re:Bad news for Turnham Green Piccadilly stop31/12/13 14:29:00 Tim Henderson
      Re:Re:Bad news for Turnham Green Piccadilly stop31/12/13 14:35:00 Richard Jennings
      Re:Re:Bad news for Turnham Green Piccadilly stop31/12/13 14:56:00 Thomas Barry
         Re:Re:Re:Bad news for Turnham Green Piccadilly stop31/12/13 16:02:00 C Wynne
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Bad news for Turnham Green Piccadilly stop31/12/13 16:07:00 Thomas Barry
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Bad news for Turnham Green Piccadilly stop31/12/13 16:09:00 C Wynne
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Bad news for Turnham Green Piccadilly stop01/01/14 23:57:00 Iain Muir
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Bad news for Turnham Green Piccadilly stop02/01/14 00:43:00 Jim Lawes
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Bad news for Turnham Green Piccadilly stop02/01/14 08:51:00 Thomas Barry
                     TfL upgrade fiasco update02/01/14 08:56:00 Thomas Barry
                        Re:TfL upgrade fiasco update03/01/14 16:27:00 Paul Corcoran
                           Re:Re:TfL upgrade fiasco update03/01/14 17:09:00 Thomas Barry
                              Re:Re:Re:TfL upgrade fiasco update04/01/14 09:10:00 Anthony Letterese
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:TfL upgrade fiasco update04/01/14 10:40:00 Richard Greenhough
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:TfL upgrade fiasco update04/01/14 15:03:00 Francis Rowe
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:TfL upgrade fiasco update04/01/14 16:13:00 Guy Lambert
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:TfL upgrade fiasco update04/01/14 16:36:00 Jonathan Bingham
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:TfL upgrade fiasco update04/01/14 18:18:00 Thomas Barry
                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:TfL upgrade fiasco update06/01/14 09:28:00 Francis Rowe
                                       OJEU notice04/01/14 17:54:00 Thomas Barry
                                          Re:OJEU notice04/01/14 22:09:00 Richard Jennings
                                             Re:Re:OJEU notice06/01/14 11:30:00 Patrick ONeill
                                             Re:Re:OJEU notice06/01/14 13:39:00 Thomas Barry
                                                Re:Re:Re:OJEU notice06/01/14 14:16:00 Patrick ONeill
                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:OJEU notice06/01/14 14:37:00 Thomas Barry
                                                      Piccadilly stop at Chiswick Park?06/01/14 17:06:00 Tom Pike
                                                         Re:Piccadilly stop at Chiswick Park?07/01/14 09:21:00 Paul Pryce
                                                            Re:Re:Piccadilly stop at Chiswick Park?07/01/14 10:10:00 Patrick ONeill
                                                               Re:Re:Re:Piccadilly stop at Chiswick Park?07/01/14 10:56:00 Tom Pike
                                                                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Piccadilly stop at Chiswick Park?07/01/14 11:28:00 Patrick ONeill
                                                                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Piccadilly stop at Chiswick Park?07/01/14 13:30:00 Tom Pike
                                                         Re:Piccadilly stop at Chiswick Park?07/01/14 11:40:00 Jeff Gear
                                                            Business Park Bridge07/01/14 12:05:00 Adam Bradley
                                                               Re:Business Park Bridge07/01/14 23:25:00 Jeff Gear
                                                                  Re:Re:Business Park Bridge08/01/14 15:09:00 Adam Bradley
                                                                     Re:Re:Re:Business Park Bridge08/01/14 15:32:00 Jeff Gear
                                                                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Business Park Bridge30/09/16 14:28:00 Andy Brown
                                                                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Business Park Bridge30/09/16 15:35:00 Adam Bradley
                                                                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Business Park Bridge30/09/16 15:53:00 Michael Robinson
                                                Re:Re:Re:OJEU notice06/01/14 15:35:00 Richard Jennings
                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:OJEU notice06/01/14 16:51:00 Thomas Barry
                                                      Local Conservatives confirm there is no change07/01/14 11:42:00 Patrick Barr
                                                         Local Conservatives confirm there is a vast bucket of spin07/01/14 13:11:00 Thomas Barry
                                                            Re:Local Conservatives confirm there is a vast bucket of spin07/01/14 13:58:00 Patrick ONeill
                                                               Re:Re:Local Conservatives confirm there is a vast bucket of spin07/01/14 15:20:00 Thomas Barry
                                                         The Mayor of London's office have confirmed there is no change07/01/14 14:14:00 Patrick Barr
                                                            Re:The Mayor of London's office have confirmed there is no change07/01/14 14:56:00 Will Watson
                                                               Re:Re:The Mayor of London's office have confirmed there is no change07/01/14 16:10:00 Thomas Barry
                                                                  Specifics please07/01/14 19:26:00 Francis Rowe
                                                                     Re:Specifics please07/01/14 23:59:00 Richard Cathcart
                                                                        Re:Re:Specifics please08/01/14 09:05:00 Paul Corcoran
                                                                     Re:Specifics please08/01/14 09:17:00 Patrick ONeill
                                                                        Re:Re:Specifics please08/01/14 13:58:00 Paul Pryce
                                                                           Re:Re:Re:Specifics please08/01/14 15:49:00 Thomas Barry
                                                                           Re:Re:Re:Specifics please08/01/14 16:00:00 Tom Pike
                                                                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Specifics please08/01/14 16:14:00 Thomas Barry
                                                                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Specifics please08/01/14 17:00:00 Tom Pike
                                                                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Specifics please08/01/14 17:09:00 Patrick ONeill
                                                                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Specifics please08/01/14 19:07:00 Tom Pike
                                                                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Specifics please09/01/14 08:13:00 Paul Pryce
                                                                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Specifics please09/01/14 09:49:00 Tom Pike
                                                                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Specifics please09/01/14 10:29:00 Paul Pryce
                                                                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Specifics please09/01/14 11:08:00 Tom Pike
                                                                     Update on the delayed District/Piccadilly upgrades23/04/15 12:15:00 Thomas Barry
                                                                        Re:Update on the delayed District/Piccadilly upgrades23/04/15 12:55:00 Michael Robinson
                                                                           Re:Re:Update on the delayed District/Piccadilly upgrades23/04/15 17:07:00 Thomas Barry
                                                                              Re:Re:Re:Update on the delayed District/Piccadilly upgrades24/04/15 12:47:00 Tony Buchanan
                                                                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Update on the delayed District/Piccadilly upgrades24/04/15 15:03:00 Richard Greenhough
   Re:Bad news for Turnham Green Piccadilly stop23/04/15 12:27:00 R Atterwill
      Gunnersbury Overcrowding and the Sky Shuttle Bus24/04/15 10:19:00 Andrew OSullivan
         Re:Gunnersbury Overcrowding and the Sky Shuttle Bus24/04/15 11:27:00 Thomas Barry
            Re:Re:Gunnersbury Overcrowding and the Sky Shuttle Bus24/04/15 11:52:00 Andrew OSullivan
               Re:Re:Re:Gunnersbury Overcrowding and the Sky Shuttle Bus24/04/15 12:50:00 Michael Robinson
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Gunnersbury Overcrowding and the Sky Shuttle Bus24/04/15 18:39:00 Tony Buchanan
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Gunnersbury Overcrowding and the Sky Shuttle Bus25/04/15 09:17:00 Anita Blake
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Gunnersbury Overcrowding and the Sky Shuttle Bus25/04/15 09:28:00 Richard Jennings
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Gunnersbury Overcrowding and the Sky Shuttle Bus25/04/15 09:48:00 Thomas Barry
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Gunnersbury Overcrowding and the Sky Shuttle Bus25/04/15 10:21:00 R Atterwill
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Gunnersbury Overcrowding and the Sky Shuttle Bus25/04/15 09:29:00 Thomas Barry
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Gunnersbury Overcrowding and the Sky Shuttle Bus27/04/15 09:58:00 Francis Rowe
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Gunnersbury Overcrowding and the Sky Shuttle Bus27/04/15 10:15:00 Pete Mayes
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Gunnersbury Overcrowding and the Sky Shuttle Bus27/04/15 10:54:00 David McLoughlin
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Gunnersbury Overcrowding and the Sky Shuttle Bus27/04/15 11:03:00 Francis Rowe
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Gunnersbury Overcrowding and the Sky Shuttle Bus27/04/15 11:34:00 Pete Mayes
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Gunnersbury Overcrowding and the Sky Shuttle Bus27/04/15 10:59:00 Richard Jennings
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Gunnersbury Overcrowding and the Sky Shuttle Bus27/04/15 11:16:00 Francis Rowe
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Gunnersbury Overcrowding and the Sky Shuttle Bus28/04/15 09:07:00 Paul Pryce
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Gunnersbury Overcrowding and the Sky Shuttle Bus28/04/15 11:02:00 Michael Robinson
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Gunnersbury Overcrowding and the Sky Shuttle Bus28/04/15 11:20:00 Michael Robinson
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Gunnersbury Overcrowding and the Sky Shuttle Bus28/04/15 12:24:00 Paul Pryce
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Gunnersbury Overcrowding and the Sky Shuttle Bus28/04/15 13:40:00 Michael Robinson
                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Gunnersbury Overcrowding and the Sky Shuttle Bus28/04/15 15:46:00 Paul Pryce
                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Gunnersbury Overcrowding and the Sky Shuttle Bus28/04/15 17:04:00 Michael Robinson
                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Gunnersbury Overcrowding and the Sky Shuttle Bus28/04/15 20:09:00 Thomas Barry
                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Gunnersbury Overcrowding and the Sky Shuttle Bus28/04/15 20:46:00 Tom Pike
                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Gunnersbury Overcrowding and the Sky Shuttle Bus29/04/15 08:55:00 Francis Rowe
                                                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Gunnersbury Overcrowding and the Sky Shuttle Bus29/04/15 09:20:00 Andrew OSullivan
                                                            Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Gunnersbury Overcrowding and the Sky Shuttle Bus29/04/15 09:37:00 Thomas Barry
                                                               Piccadilly trains held at Acton Town29/04/15 11:24:00 Andrew OSullivan
                                                                  Re:Piccadilly trains held at Acton Town29/04/15 12:20:00 Michael Robinson
                                                                     Re:Re:Piccadilly trains held at Acton Town29/04/15 12:39:00 Thomas Barry
                                                                  Re:Piccadilly trains held at Acton Town29/04/15 13:20:00 Richard Greenhough
                                                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Gunnersbury Overcrowding and the Sky Shuttle Bus29/04/15 09:28:00 Tom Pike
                                                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Gunnersbury Overcrowding and the Sky Shuttle Bus29/04/15 09:42:00 Michael Robinson
                                          'Forced' my backside28/04/15 15:30:00 Thomas Barry
                                             District line contract awarded, scheduled for completion in 202303/08/15 11:41:00 Michael Robinson
                                                Re:District line contract awarded, scheduled for completion in 202303/08/15 12:29:00 Ken Munn
                                                   Re:Re:District line contract awarded, scheduled for completion in 202303/08/15 13:05:00 Michael Robinson
                                                      Re:Re:Re:District line contract awarded, scheduled for completion in 202303/08/15 14:03:00 Ken Munn
                                                         Re:Re:Re:Re:District line contract awarded, scheduled for completion in 202303/08/15 16:58:00 Thomas Barry

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