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Topic: There is an alternative to Runway 3
Posted by: David Giles
Date/Time: 22/10/12 19:38:00

It is indeed an interesting article from Chief Officers which echoes the views of Philip Hammond, the Secretary of State for Defence, and former Secretary of State for Transport, who has advocated a "Heathwick solution" - linking Heathrow and Gatwick in 15 minutes by high speed train:

Here is the article from Chief Officers:

"This newspaper has an opinion. London's Heathrow Airport (LHR) did not need Terminal 5 and it does not need a third runway. Furthermore, London does not need another airport.

"London has sufficient capacity for all its needs and the UK as a whole has excess capacity. The problem is not with capacity, nor even where it is, but with the lack of an effective infrastructure to connect the existing capacity.

"The problem that doesn't need solving is that airlines want to use Heathrow for its perceived value a) as the national airport and b) as a hub.

"Neither is a valid argument for London airports are unlike those of any other city.

"London is ringed by airports: in addition to Heathrow, there are Gatwick and Stansted, both of which operate at far below capacity. Stansted is the better choice or travellers visiting the east coast of England.

"London is a strange creature: it has three hearts: the west end, the City and Docklands - the latter two are the commercial districts; the former is the tourist area. Heathrow serves the tourist area with motorways and both overland and underground trains. Gatwick serves, with trains, the border between the tourist and commercial districts (and provides direct access to the primary legal district) and Stansted, with excellent road and rail connections, serves the commercial districts.

"But major airlines don't want to land at Stansted or Gatwick so their business class passengers travelling for business reasons are disadvantaged. Ironically, many business travellers prefer to fly into a European airport such as Schipol and take a commuter flight to another London airport - London City, which is right in the heart of the Docklands area and has recently been connected (albeit indirectly) to the tube network.

"Considering, for a moment, only LHR and Gatwick (LGW), they have the potential to be joined up into a single operating unit only 20 minutes apart. That is less than the time it presently takes to get between Terminals 4 and 5 at LHR. The infrastructure to connect LHR and LGW is almost in place - and the knowledge, skills and technology is more readily available in the UK than in almost any other country in the world.

"The recently completed High Speed Rail link from St Pancras in the heart of London to Dover has been a triumph. On time, on budget and with tunnelling to tolerances of less than 5mm in clay and chalk has demonstrated that a mix of overland and underground railway tracks can be cost effective, can be environmentally sound and can move people, on a point to point basis, with great speed.

"Trains can be run between LHR and LGW on shared tracks with boarding and alighting in two places at each end - one airside (i.e. people and luggage stay within the customs and immigration controlled area) and one landside (i.e. for those who are outside the customs and immigration controlled area).

"The system can be extended, easily and cheaply, to Stansted, running alongside the M25 where there is an existing zone with almost no housing or other buildings), again including both "cleared" and "uncleared" people, luggage and - importantly - freight.

"This option, which this newspaper has long advocated, is at last on the Government's agenda. Philip Hammond is the Defence Secretary, not in the transport ministry. But he did served in the Ministry of Transport (renamed The Department of Transport" under one or other of the regular "modernisation of government" plans of recent years) until a about a year ago. That break means he has not been recently bombarded with the scare stories about how a failure to build a third LHR runway will destroy the UK's economy (that is not, incredibly, overstating some of the comments that have been made). Over the weekend, Hammond has made the kind of brutal comments that are needed in the debate. Adding R3, he said, would be a "sticking plaster solution."

"He says that the estimated cost of linking LHR and LGW would be around GBP5,000 million and he is more optimistic than this newspaper about journey times: he reckons as little as 15 minutes. But we think it should be much cheaper to construct between those two airports.

"The railway line we propose, from LGW via LHR to STN would give touchpoints at (using a clock-face view of London) 7, 9 and 1 o'clock. There is little need for tunnelling and there are no major rivers or areas of national (or even environmental) importance or beauty to avoid. It's quick, easy and effective.

"The other, widely disparaged, idea of a new airport in the Thames Estuary is, on many levels such a non-starter that it is disturbingly gaining credence. And part of the plan is to scrap LHR entirely. That's not so much pie in the sky as a crazy plan.

"For many travellers who do not actually need to be in London, some are now using regional airports and connecting via European airports such as Amsterdam and Frankfurt. In part, those travelling with hand-luggage only are doing this to avoid the UK's punitive exit tax which is significantly lower on intra EU flights than on long haul. A couple of hours transit time - especially if it's possible to hold a meeting in the airport hotel in transit - can result in very substantial savings, especially for frequent business class travellers.

"LHR wants to consider itself a case of special importance. This weekend its CEO, Colin Matthews, said that it had taken Aeromexico four years to get a slot at Heathrow. He is quoted by The Telegraph as arguing "Britain is being held back economically by the Government's inertia on airport expansion."

"He is supported by Akbar ll Baker, CEO of Gulf Airways. Recently, he told a conference of media and aviation industry personnel in London "Already heading towards a double dip recession, the UK cannot afford to lose out on the huge benefits a third runway would bring to the economy in south east England and the country as a whole through the creation of more jobs and more business opportunities."

"He has a vested interest: Qatar Airways is to introduce a Boeing 787 service into London and there's the old problem that LHR as the reputation of being London's premier airport and therefore landing at LGW or STN is seen as somewhat infra dig.al Bakar has another ulterior motive: Qatar Airways has just joined the OneWorld loyalty scheme which links it with British Airways, Iberia and American - all of which have their UK bases at Heathrow.

"An OpEd in London's Evening Standard (a localised edition of the Daily Mail) contains a very reasoned view of air travel (see http://www.standard.co.uk/comment/comment/act-now-on-the-airport-issue-or-get-left-behind-8218651.html) . It argues for an effective hub system - bringing into what might be called the London Circle, Birmingham International. BHX is already capable of handling anything except the A380.

"But the Evening Standard article contains one vital argument so far missing from this piece: Lord Digby Jones, formerly chairman of the Confederation of British Industry, says " airlines and their passengers will need to be persuaded that the time to travel by train between the two is worth it, rather than walking around the corner at Schiphol or Frankfurt."

"Schiphol is a triumph of design, better, even, than Hong Kong, from a logistical point of view. It operates on a wheel and spoke system. Everywhere is more or less equidistant from everywhere else. But when reaches capacity, as it inevitably will, that design will make expansion difficult.

"But Jones is right - delay is the worst option. The government needs to get off its bum and make a decision. And that decision should be to create a purpose-built fast railway from LHR to LGW. Two years work plus the time that will be wasted in planning and consultations. In that Jones was supported by al Baker who said "Measures to expand need to be taken soon to avoid a catastrophic situation in the future. The UK government cannot afford to immerse itself in long winded debate and public enquiries. Action needs to be taken."

"Decide, design, deploy.

"And let's at last get down to business. It's the function of airports that's important - not ego for Heathrow or any airlines."


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            Re:David Cameron plans revenge on Boris25/09/12 17:38:00 David Giles
               Re:Re:David Cameron plans revenge on Boris25/09/12 20:15:00 Steve Taylor
                  Re:Re:Re:David Cameron plans revenge on Boris26/09/12 23:31:00 David Giles
                     Re:Commission to investigate the options27/09/12 09:43:00 Richard Greenhough
                  Re:Re:Re:David Cameron plans revenge on Boris27/09/12 23:51:00 Dave Robertson
   Out with it, David04/09/12 22:07:00 Thomas Barry
      Re:Out with it, David05/09/12 01:55:00 Stephen Thornton
         Re:Re:Out with it, David05/09/12 07:05:00 Phil Andrews
            Re:Re:Re:Out with it, David05/09/12 11:08:00 John Hickman
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Out with it, David06/09/12 12:54:00 David Giles
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Out with it, David06/09/12 22:25:00 Steve Taylor
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Out with it, David06/09/12 22:34:00 Phil Andrews
   Zac Goldsmith04/09/12 22:31:00 Thomas Barry
      Re:Zac Goldsmith04/09/12 22:50:00 Julian Pavey
         Re:Re:Zac Goldsmith04/09/12 23:37:00 George Knox
            Re:Re:Re:Zac Goldsmith05/09/12 11:56:00 Neil Muller
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Zac Goldsmith05/09/12 14:39:00 Iris Hill
            Re:Re:Re:Zac Goldsmith05/09/12 14:36:00 Vanessa Smith
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Zac Goldsmith05/09/12 15:43:00 George Knox
               Re:Political Parties05/09/12 15:58:00 Richard Greenhough
                  Re:Re:Political Parties05/09/12 17:09:00 Julian Pavey
                  Re:Re:Political Parties06/09/12 22:56:00 Guy Lambert
                     Re:Re:Re:Political Parties06/09/12 23:05:00 Steve Taylor
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Political Parties06/09/12 23:21:00 David Giles
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Political Parties06/09/12 23:35:00 Phil Andrews
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Political Parties06/09/12 23:39:00 Richard Jennings
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Political Parties07/09/12 00:07:00 George Knox
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Political Parties07/09/12 07:59:00 Steve Taylor
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Political Parties07/09/12 00:14:00 Andrew Sibley
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Political Parties07/09/12 03:47:00 Dave Jervis
                              Labour Party and 'paymasters'07/09/12 08:59:00 David McLoughlin
                                 Re:Labour Party and 'paymasters'07/09/12 10:42:00 Phil Andrews
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Political Parties07/09/12 09:43:00 Tim Henderson
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Political Parties07/09/12 11:45:00 Claire Moran
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Political Parties07/09/12 21:45:00 Steve Taylor
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Political Parties07/09/12 23:36:00 Richard Jennings
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Political Parties08/09/12 01:04:00 Phil Andrews
                                             Re::Re:Re:Re:Re:Political Parties08/09/12 07:34:00 Steve Taylor
                                                Re:Re::Re:Re:Re:Re:Political Parties09/09/12 11:53:00 Claire Moran
   Heathrow Indecision risks costing Cameron seats18/09/12 08:03:00 Tim Henderson
      Re:Heathrow Indecision risks costing Cameron seats18/09/12 09:58:00 Claire Moran
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            Re:There is no change in the Government's oppostion to a Third Runway18/09/12 14:40:00 Dave Robertson
               Re:Re:There is no change in the Government's oppostion to a Third Runway18/09/12 14:45:00 Claire Moran
                  Re:Re:Re:There is no change in the Government's oppostion to a Third Runway18/09/12 15:55:00 Phil Andrews
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:There is no change in the Government's oppostion to a Third Runway18/09/12 16:36:00 Richard Greenhough
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:There is no change in the Government's oppostion to a Third Runway18/09/12 16:44:00 Phil Andrews
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:There is no change in the Government's oppostion to a Third Runway18/09/12 16:54:00 Claire Moran
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:There is no change in the Government's oppostion to a Third Runway18/09/12 17:02:00 Phil Andrews
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      Re:Well Done Boris and thanks from Emirates18/09/12 21:02:00 Claire Moran
         Re:Re:Well Done Boris and thanks from Emirates18/09/12 22:04:00 Steve Taylor
         Re:Re:Well Done Boris and thanks from Emirates18/09/12 23:20:00 Dave Robertson
      Re:Well Done Boris and thanks from Emirates18/09/12 22:07:00 Steve Taylor
         Re:Re:Well Done Boris and thanks from Emirates18/09/12 22:35:00 Claire Moran
            Re:Re:Re:Well Done Boris and thanks from Emirates19/09/12 07:25:00 Phil Andrews
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Well Done Boris and thanks from Emirates19/09/12 07:54:00 Steve Taylor
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Well Done Boris and thanks from Emirates19/09/12 09:08:00 Claire Moran
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Well Done Boris and thanks from Emirates19/09/12 13:28:00 Steve Taylor
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Well Done Boris and thanks from Emirates19/09/12 16:11:00 Richard Greenhough
               Giles is a walt19/09/12 09:26:00 Thomas Barry
                  Re:Giles is a walt19/09/12 09:38:00 Richard Greenhough
                     Re:Re:Giles is a walt19/09/12 10:56:00 Andrew OSullivan
                     Re:Re:Giles is a walt19/09/12 11:25:00 Jonathan Bingham
   Re:Hey Boris where can we land?20/09/12 09:35:00 Stephen Gould
   Re:Good man Boris for continuing to oppose Third Runway25/09/12 02:21:00 Colin Simonds
      Re:Re:Good man Boris for continuing to oppose Third Runway25/09/12 08:14:00 Dave Robertson
      Logic problem?25/09/12 08:39:00 Thomas Barry
         Re:Logic problem?25/09/12 09:46:00 Claire Moran
         Re:Logic problem?25/09/12 11:49:00 Colin Simonds
            Re:Re:Logic problem?25/09/12 12:17:00 Richard Greenhough
               :Logic problem?25/09/12 13:02:00 Colin Simonds
                  Re::Logic problem?25/09/12 13:08:00 Claire Moran
                     Re:Re::Logic problem?25/09/12 13:22:00 Colin Simonds
                  Re::Logic problem?25/09/12 13:10:00 Richard Greenhough
                     Re:Re::Logic problem?25/09/12 13:13:00 Edward Przepiora
                        Re:Re:Re::Logic problem?25/09/12 13:26:00 Claire Moran
                           Logic problem?25/09/12 13:44:00 Colin Simonds
                              Re:Logic problem?25/09/12 13:57:00 Claire Moran
                              Re:Logic problem?25/09/12 13:59:00 Richard Greenhough
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                                    Re:Re:Re:Logic problem?25/09/12 15:38:00 Claire Moran
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                              Re:Logic problem?25/09/12 16:15:00 Steve Taylor
                                 Re:Re:Logic problem?25/09/12 16:36:00 Colin Simonds
                     Re:Re::Logic problem?25/09/12 16:10:00 Steve Taylor
                        Re:Re:Re::Logic problem?25/09/12 16:30:00 Colin Simonds
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               Re:Re:Re:Logic problem?25/09/12 20:54:00 Steve Taylor
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Logic problem?25/09/12 21:43:00 Jonathan Bingham
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Logic problem?25/09/12 22:08:00 Steve Taylor
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Logic problem?25/09/12 22:40:00 Colin Simonds
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Logic problem?25/09/12 23:06:00 Claire Moran
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Logic problem?25/09/12 23:27:00 George Knox
                              Logic problem?25/09/12 23:37:00 Colin Simonds
                                 Re:Logic problem?26/09/12 08:45:00 Tim Henderson
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Logic problem?25/09/12 23:49:00 Steve Taylor
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Logic problem?26/09/12 00:22:00 Colin Simonds
                                 Mass exodus to Devon ?26/09/12 09:13:00 Tim Henderson
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Logic problem?26/09/12 09:34:00 Richard Greenhough
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Logic problem?26/09/12 09:52:00 Claire Moran
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Logic problem?26/09/12 10:17:00 Jonathan Bingham
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Logic problem?26/09/12 10:39:00 Claire Moran
                                 :Logic problem?26/09/12 13:58:00 Colin Simonds
                                    Re::Logic problem?26/09/12 14:09:00 Claire Moran
                                       Re:Re::Logic problem?27/09/12 10:25:00 Paul Green
                                          Re:Re:Re::Logic problem?27/09/12 14:11:00 Colin Simonds
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re::Logic problem?01/10/12 12:21:00 David Giles
                              Land access costs27/09/12 11:09:00 Thomas Barry
                                 Re:Land access costs27/09/12 14:24:00 Claire Moran
                                    Re:Re:Land access costs27/09/12 15:49:00 Colin Simonds
                                       Re:Re:Re:Land access costs27/09/12 16:33:00 Jonathan Bingham
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Land access costs27/09/12 16:35:00 Claire Moran
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Land access costs27/09/12 17:23:00 Jonathan Bingham
                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Land access costs27/09/12 17:29:00 Claire Moran
                                                   The importance of the free market27/09/12 19:34:00 David Giles
                                                      Re:The importance of the free market27/09/12 19:42:00 Richard Greenhough
                                                         Re:Re:The importance of the free market27/09/12 20:19:00 Guy Lambert
                                                         Re:Re:The importance of the free market27/09/12 22:40:00 Colin Simonds
                                                            Re:Re:Re:The importance of the free market27/09/12 23:08:00 Paul Green
                                                               Re:Re:Re:Re:The importance of the free market27/09/12 23:11:00 Paul Green
                                                                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The importance of the free market28/09/12 00:22:00 Claire Moran
                                                                     A sucessful economy needs more than one hub airportt28/09/12 12:08:00 David Giles
                                                                        Re:A sucessful economy needs more than one hub airportt28/09/12 14:07:00 Richard Greenhough
                                                                           Re:Re:A successful economy needs more than one hub airportt28/09/12 18:35:00 David Giles
                                                                              Re:Re:Re:A successful economy needs more than one hub airportt28/09/12 18:37:00 Richard Greenhough
                                                                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:A successful economy needs more than one hub airportt28/09/12 20:02:00 David Giles
                                                                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:A successful economy needs more than one hub airportt28/09/12 21:38:00 Claire Moran
                                                                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:A successful economy needs more than one hub airportt29/09/12 08:36:00 Steve Taylor
                                                                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:A successful economy needs more than one hub airportt29/09/12 08:59:00 David Giles
                                                                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:A successful economy needs more than one hub airportt29/09/12 09:12:00 Steve Taylor
                                                                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:A successful economy needs more than one hub airportt29/09/12 11:15:00 David Giles
                                                                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:A successful economy needs more than one hub airportt29/09/12 11:50:00 Tim Henderson
                                                                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:A successful economy needs more than one hub airportt29/09/12 23:27:00 David Giles
                                                                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:A successful economy needs more than one hub airportt29/09/12 23:57:00 Colin Simonds
                                                                                                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:A successful economy needs more than one hub airportt30/09/12 07:53:00 Tim Henderson
                                                                                                            Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:A successful economy needs more than one hub airportt30/09/12 10:04:00 Richard Greenhough
                                                                                                               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:A successful economy needs more than one hub airportt30/09/12 10:48:00 Tim Henderson
                                                                                                                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:A successful economy needs more than one hub airportt30/09/12 21:18:00 Jonathan Bingham
                                                                                                                     :Re:Re:Re:A successful economy needs more than one hub airportt30/09/12 22:08:00 Steve Taylor
                                                                                                      :Re:A successful economy needs more than one hub airportt30/09/12 08:50:00 Steve Taylor
                                                                                                         Re::Re:A successful economy needs more than one hub airportt30/09/12 09:26:00 David Giles
                                                                                                            Re:Re::Re:A successful economy needs more than one hub airportt30/09/12 09:32:00 Steve Taylor
                                                                                                               Re:Re:Re::Re:A successful economy needs more than one hub airportt30/09/12 21:33:00 Claire Moran
                                                                                                                  Re:Re:Re:Re::Re:A successful economy needs more than one hub airportt01/10/12 08:07:00 David Giles
                                                         Re:Re:The importance of the free market04/10/12 21:29:00 Ish Ruddy
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                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Land access costs01/10/12 18:17:00 David Giles
                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Land access costs01/10/12 18:38:00 Colin Simonds
                                                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Land access costs01/10/12 19:37:00 David Giles
                                                            Land access costs02/10/12 01:38:00 Colin Simonds
                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Land access costs02/10/12 01:23:00 Guy Lambert
                                                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Land access costs02/10/12 08:40:00 David Giles
                                                            Re:Re:Land access costs02/10/12 13:34:00 Steve Taylor
                                                               Re:Re:Re:Land access costs02/10/12 14:29:00 David Giles
                                                                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Land access costs02/10/12 15:03:00 Richard Greenhough
                                                                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Land access costs02/10/12 17:00:00 David Giles
                                                                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Land access costs02/10/12 21:28:00 Steve Taylor
                                                                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Land access costs02/10/12 21:34:00 Steve Taylor
                                                                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Land access costs02/10/12 22:10:00 Phil Andrews
                                                                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Land access costs03/10/12 18:00:00 David Giles
                                                                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Land access costs03/10/12 21:52:00 Phil Andrews
                                                                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Land access costs04/10/12 12:40:00 David Giles
                                                                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Land access costs04/10/12 20:37:00 Guy Lambert
                                                                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Land access costs04/10/12 23:52:00 Phil Andrews
                                                                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Land access costs05/10/12 08:14:00 David Giles
                                                         Shh, you'll upset him02/10/12 10:23:00 Thomas Barry
                                                            Re:Shh, you'll upset him02/10/12 22:11:00 Claire Moran
                                                               Re:Re:Shh, you'll upset him05/10/12 16:33:00 Claire Moran
                                                                  Re:Re:Re:Shh, you'll upset him05/10/12 16:34:00 Claire Moran
                                                                     Willie Walsh on Question Time last night05/10/12 17:30:00 David Giles
                                                                        Site for four runways05/10/12 17:42:00 Tim Henderson
                                                                           Policy Exchange: Mad05/10/12 17:52:00 Thomas Barry
                                                                              Policy Exchange's Synopsis of its Report "Biggerand Quieter"05/10/12 18:45:00 David Giles
                                                                                 Re:Policy Exchange's Synopsis of its Report "Biggerand Quieter"05/10/12 19:18:00 Claire Moran
                                                                                    Re:Re:Policy Exchange's Synopsis of its Report "Biggerand Quieter"06/10/12 08:39:00 David Giles
                                                                                       Re:Re:Re:Policy Exchange's Synopsis of its Report "Biggerand Quieter"06/10/12 14:52:00 Claire Moran
                                                                                          Re:Policy Exchange's Synopsis of its Report "Biggerand Quieter"08/10/12 08:24:00 Steve Taylor
                                                                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Policy Exchange's Synopsis of its Report "Biggerand Quieter"08/10/12 12:01:00 David Giles
                                                                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Policy Exchange's Synopsis of its Report "Biggerand Quieter"08/10/12 12:14:00 Claire Moran
                                                                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Policy Exchange's Synopsis of its Report "Biggerand Quieter"08/10/12 12:47:00 David Giles
                                                                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Policy Exchange's Synopsis of its Report "Biggerand Quieter"08/10/12 12:32:00 Steve Taylor
                                                                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Policy Exchange's Synopsis of its Report "Biggerand Quieter"08/10/12 13:14:00 Claire Moran
                                                                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Policy Exchange's Synopsis of its Report "Biggerand Quieter"08/10/12 18:27:00 David Giles
                                                                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Policy Exchange's Synopsis of its Report "Biggerand Quieter"08/10/12 18:38:00 Tim Henderson
                                                                                                London Airport08/10/12 13:16:00 Xanthe West
                                                                                                   Re:London Airport08/10/12 13:20:00 Claire Moran
                                                                                                      Re:Re:London Airport08/10/12 19:03:00 David Giles
                                                                                                         Re:Re:Re:London Airport08/10/12 19:29:00 Claire Moran
                                                                                                         Re:Re:Re:London Airport08/10/12 21:02:00 Steve Taylor
                                                                                                         Re:Re:Re:London Airport08/10/12 21:04:00 Steve Taylor
                                                                                                            Re:Re:Re:Re:London Airport09/10/12 18:36:00 David Giles
                                                                                                               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:London Airport09/10/12 18:44:00 Steve Taylor
                                                                                                                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:London Airport09/10/12 19:30:00 David Giles
                                                                                                                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:London Airport10/10/12 08:46:00 Paul Corcoran
                                                                                                                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:London Airport10/10/12 11:00:00 Tim Henderson
                                                                                                                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:London Airport10/10/12 12:58:00 Paul Corcoran
                                                                                                                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:London Airport13/10/12 12:38:00 Thomas Barry
                                                                                                                           Wandsworth call for early report from Davies13/10/12 11:07:00 Tim Henderson
                                                                                                                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:London Airport13/10/12 12:33:00 Thomas Barry
                                                                                                                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:London Airport13/10/12 12:53:00 Steve Taylor
                                                                                                                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:London Airport13/10/12 13:31:00 Claire Moran
                                                                                                                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:London Airport13/10/12 17:39:00 Richard Jennings
                                                                                                                  GLA want report BEFORE the 2015 election24/10/12 18:15:00 Tim Henderson
                                                                                                                     Re:GLA want report BEFORE the 2015 election24/10/12 18:20:00 Phil Andrews
                                                                                                               Zac : Cynical and disruptive to delay decision21/10/12 08:22:00 Tim Henderson
                                                                                                                  Re:Zac : Cynical and disruptive to delay decision21/10/12 09:57:00 David Giles
                                                                                                                     Re:Re:Zac : Cynical and disruptive to delay decision21/10/12 10:07:00 Steve Taylor
                                                                                                                        Re:Re:Re:Zac : Cynical and disruptive to delay decision21/10/12 10:13:00 Claire Moran
                                                                                                                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Zac : Cynical and disruptive to delay decision22/10/12 14:02:00 Claire Moran
                                                                                                                               There is an alternative to Runway 322/10/12 19:38:00 David Giles
                                                                                                                                 Re: There is an alternative to Runway 322/10/12 20:13:00 Steve Taylor
                                                                                                                                    Re:Re: There is an alternative to Runway 322/10/12 20:20:00 Claire Moran
                                                                                                                                       The good news24/10/12 01:07:00 David Giles
                                                                                                                  Mary wants Commission to report as quickly as possible23/10/12 19:53:00 Tim Henderson
                                                                                                                     Re:Mary wants Commission to report as quickly as possible23/10/12 20:26:00 Steve Taylor
                                                                                                                        Re:Re:Mary wants Commission to report as quickly as possible24/10/12 08:30:00 Claire Moran
                                                                                                                           'The good news' or David Giles, Prophet24/10/12 10:11:00 Claudia Jachtmann
                                                                                                                              Re:'The good news' or David Giles, Prophet24/10/12 14:39:00 David Giles
                                                                                                                           Re:Re:Re:Mary wants Commission to report as quickly as possible24/10/12 14:33:00 David Giles
                                                                                                                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Mary wants Commission to report as quickly as possible24/10/12 16:53:00 Claire Moran
                                                                                                                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Mary wants Commission to report as quickly as possible24/10/12 18:44:00 David Giles
                                                                                                                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Mary wants Commission to report as quickly as possible24/10/12 20:20:00 Steve Taylor
                                                                                                                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Mary wants Commission to report as quickly as possible25/10/12 09:08:00 Thomas Barry
                                                                                                                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Mary wants Commission to report as quickly as possible25/10/12 10:05:00 Steve Taylor
                                                                                                                              Re:Mary wants Commission to report as quickly as possible24/10/12 20:21:00 Steve Taylor
                                                                                                                                 Re:Re:Mary wants Commission to report as quickly as possible25/10/12 09:00:00 David Giles
                                                                                                                                    Re:Re:Re:Mary wants Commission to report as quickly as possible25/10/12 10:02:00 Steve Taylor
                                                                                                                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Mary wants Commission to report as quickly as possible25/10/12 11:13:00 Guy Lambert
                                                                                                                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Mary wants Commission to report as quickly as possible25/10/12 14:18:00 David Giles
   Re:Good man Boris for continuing to oppose Third Runway03/11/12 13:06:00 Will Watson
      Re:Re:Good man Boris for continuing to oppose Third Runway03/11/12 19:16:00 Steve Taylor
      Re:Re:Good man Boris for continuing to oppose Third Runway03/11/12 21:20:00 Richard Jennings
         Re:Re:Re:Good man Boris for continuing to oppose Third Runway03/11/12 21:30:00 Claire Moran
         Re:Re:Re:Good man Boris for continuing to oppose Third Runway04/11/12 11:09:00 Will Watson
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Good man Boris for continuing to oppose Third Runway04/11/12 12:54:00 David Giles
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Good man Boris for continuing to oppose Third Runway04/11/12 13:05:00 Will Watson
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Good man Boris for continuing to oppose Third Runway04/11/12 20:53:00 Steve Taylor
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Good man Boris for continuing to oppose Third Runway04/11/12 20:58:00 Claire Moran
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Good man Boris for continuing to oppose Third Runway04/11/12 22:50:00 Steve Taylor
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Good man Boris for continuing to oppose Third Runway04/11/12 18:15:00 Phil Andrews
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Good man Boris for continuing to oppose Third Runway04/11/12 13:35:00 Steve Taylor
   London Councils want  early report from Davies Airport Commission04/11/12 17:56:00 Tim Henderson
      Re:London Councils want  early report from Davies Airport Commission04/11/12 23:09:00 Dave Jervis
         A Third Runway will not be a quick fix05/11/12 13:58:00 David Giles
            Re:A Third Runway will not be a quick fix05/11/12 14:27:00 Will Watson
               Re:Re:A Third Runway will not be a quick fix05/11/12 18:45:00 David Giles
                  Re:Re:Re:A Third Runway will not be a quick fix06/11/12 09:57:00 Paul Green
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:A Third Runway will not be a quick fix06/11/12 10:25:00 Tim Henderson
   Zac Goldsmith Public Meeting on Heathrow tonight21/11/12 09:33:00 Tim Henderson

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