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Topic: Re:Re:Re:Re:For Laurence: what would Jesus drive?
Posted by: Patrick ONeill
Date/Time: 03/12/10 01:34:00

"Yep - 'whataboutery' is essential in coming out with a balanced conclusion. Otherwise all you have is isolated incidents, personal rants and hates/opinions and ..... etcetcetc...
"

As usual, you are talking bollocks Laurence.  I have produced the facts regarding who is responsible for deaths and injuries on the road. 

You have produced nothing other than your love for big lumps of metal and pathetic whataboutery  to try and deflect attention from this.

How do you explain the disproportionate number of people killed by your beloved 4x4s compared to other modes of transport?

Is it:
1. 4x4s attract more than the usual share of poor drivers? (or lets call them dickheads, because that is what they are)
2. Even good drivers make mistakes, and a mistake in a 4x4 will have more serious consequences than a mistake in other modes of transport because of their geometry, weight and poor handling.
3. Both of the above

Just because you believe in the afterlife does not mean you should support one of the most effective ways of killing people on the roads.


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TopicDate PostedPosted By
4X4 drivers- Now go and help stranded people in the country30/11/10 14:31:00 Andrew Dunham
   Re:4X4 drivers- Now go and help stranded people in the country30/11/10 14:45:00 Keith Iddon
      Re:Re:4X4 drivers- Now go and help stranded people in the country30/11/10 14:58:00 Stewart Dean
         Re:Re:Re:4X4 drivers- Now go and help stranded people in the country30/11/10 15:12:00 Andrew Dunham
            Re:Re:Re:Re:4X4 drivers- Now go and help stranded people in the country30/11/10 15:26:00 Anne Meagher
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:4X4 drivers- Now go and help stranded people in the country30/11/10 15:52:00 Jennifer Selig
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:4X4 drivers- Now go and help stranded people in the country30/11/10 16:12:00 Dan Murphy
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:4X4 drivers- Now go and help stranded people in the country30/11/10 16:18:00 Jennifer Selig
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:4X4 drivers- Now go and help stranded people in the country30/11/10 17:00:00 Bobby Newly
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:4X4 drivers- Now go and help stranded people in the country30/11/10 17:24:00 Keith Iddon
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:4X4 drivers- Now go and help stranded people in the country30/11/10 17:36:00 Iain Muir
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:4X4 drivers- Now go and help stranded people in the country01/12/10 13:08:00 Iain Muir
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:4X4 drivers- Now go and help stranded people in the country01/12/10 13:26:00 Steve Taylor
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:4X4 drivers- Now go and help stranded people in the country01/12/10 22:10:00 Lou Greenwood
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:4X4 drivers- Now go and help stranded people in the country01/12/10 13:33:00 Steve Taylor
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:4X4 drivers- Now go and help stranded people in the country01/12/10 13:37:00 Emma Thatcher
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:4X4 drivers- Now go and help stranded people in the country01/12/10 14:10:00 Steve Taylor
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:4X4 drivers- Now go and help stranded people in the country01/12/10 14:12:00 Andrew Dunham
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:4X4 drivers- Now go and help stranded people in the country01/12/10 14:25:00 Bobby Newly
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:4X4 drivers- Now go and help stranded people in the country01/12/10 14:29:00 Emma Thatcher
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:4X4 drivers- Now go and help stranded people in the country01/12/10 14:39:00 Steve Taylor
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:4X4 drivers- Now go and help stranded people in the country01/12/10 17:18:00 antony obrien
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:4X4 drivers- Now go and help stranded people in the country02/12/10 09:25:00 Emma Thatcher
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:4X4 drivers- Now go and help stranded people in the country02/12/10 09:38:00 antony obrien
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:4X4 drivers- Now go and help stranded people in the country02/12/10 13:14:00 Steve Taylor
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:4X4 drivers- Now go and help stranded people in the country01/12/10 14:46:00 Andrew Flinn
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:4X4 drivers- Now go and help stranded people in the country01/12/10 15:08:00 Andrew Dunham
                                          Re: In defence of 4X4s01/12/10 15:23:00 Vanessa Smith
                                             Re:Re: In defence of 4X4s01/12/10 16:14:00 Steve Taylor
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:4X4 drivers- Now go and help stranded people in the country01/12/10 15:37:00 Andrew Flinn
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:4X4 drivers- Now go and help stranded people in the country01/12/10 16:33:00 Andrew Dunham
                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:4X4 drivers- Now go and help stranded people in the country01/12/10 16:38:00 Steve Taylor
                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:4X4 drivers- Now go and help stranded people in the country01/12/10 17:36:00 Andrew Dunham
                                                      :Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:4X4 drivers- Now go and help stranded people in the country01/12/10 18:04:00 Steve Taylor
                                                         Re::Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:4X4 drivers- Now go and help stranded people in the country01/12/10 22:16:00 Lou Greenwood
                                                            Re:Re::Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:4X4 drivers- Now go and help stranded people in the country01/12/10 23:08:00 Steve Taylor
                                                               Re:Re:Re::Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:4X4 drivers- Now go and help stranded people in the country02/12/10 08:25:00 Colin Jordan
                                                                  Re:Re:Re:Re::Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:4X4 drivers- Now go and help stranded people in the country02/12/10 09:07:00 antony obrien
                                                            Re:Re::Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:4X4 drivers- Now go and help stranded people in the country02/12/10 09:12:00 Stewart Dean
                                                               Re:Re:Re::Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:4X4 drivers- Now go and help stranded people in the country02/12/10 09:21:00 antony obrien
                                                                  Re:Re:Re:Re::Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:4X4 drivers- Now go and help stranded people in the country02/12/10 10:08:00 Stewart Dean
                                                                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re::Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:4X4 drivers- Now go and help stranded people in the country02/12/10 10:47:00 Colin Jordan
                                                                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re::Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:4X4 drivers- Now go and help stranded people in the country02/12/10 10:51:00 antony obrien
                                                                  Re:Re:Re:Re::Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:4X4 drivers- Now go and help stranded people in the country02/12/10 11:45:00 Dan Murphy
                                                                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re::Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:4X4 drivers- Now go and help stranded people in the country02/12/10 11:50:00 antony obrien
                                                                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re::Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:4X4 drivers- Now go and help stranded people in the country02/12/10 13:26:00 antony obrien
                                                                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re::Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:4X4 drivers- Now go and help stranded people in the country02/12/10 16:25:00 Dan Murphy
                                                                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re::Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:4X4 drivers- Now go and help stranded people in the cou02/12/10 17:28:00 Laurence Truett
                                                                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re::Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:4X4 drivers- Now go and help stranded people in the cou02/12/10 17:50:00 Dan Murphy
                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:4X4 drivers- Now go and help stranded people in the country02/12/10 11:52:00 Andrew Flinn
                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:4X4 drivers- Now go and help stranded people in the country02/12/10 11:58:00 Laurence Truett
                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:4X4 drivers- Now go and help stranded people in the country02/12/10 13:20:00 Richard Greenhough
                                                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:4X4 drivers- Now go and help stranded people in the country02/12/10 15:02:00 Laurence Truett
                                                            Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:4X4 drivers- Now go and help stranded people in the country02/12/10 16:08:00 Richard Greenhough
                                                               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:4X4 drivers- Now go and help stranded peo02/12/10 17:35:00 Laurence Truett
                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:4X4 drivers- Now go and help stranded people in the country02/12/10 13:38:00 Vanessa Smith
                                                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:4X4 drivers- Now go and help stranded people in the country02/12/10 13:48:00 Keith Iddon
                                                            Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:4X4 drivers- Now go and help stranded people in the country02/12/10 13:58:00 Richard Greenhough
                                                            Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:4X4 drivers- Now go and help stranded people in the country02/12/10 14:27:00 Vanessa Smith
                                                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:4X4 drivers- Now go and help stranded people in the country02/12/10 13:59:00 Patrick ONeill
                                                            Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:4X4 drivers- Now go and help stranded people in the country02/12/10 14:14:00 Jonathan Bingham
                                                               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:4X4 drivers- Now go and help stranded people in the country02/12/10 14:23:00 Emma Thatcher
                                                                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:4X4 drivers- Now go and help stranded people in the country02/12/10 14:48:00 Patrick ONeill
                                                                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:4X4 drivers- Now go and help stranded people in the country02/12/10 14:53:00 Emma Thatcher
                                                               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:4X4 drivers- Now go and help stranded people in the country02/12/10 14:54:00 Laurence Truett
                                                                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:4X4 drivers- Now go and help stranded people in the country02/12/10 15:15:00 Patrick ONeill
                                                                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:4X4 drivers- Now go and help strand02/12/10 17:12:00 Laurence Truett
                                                                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:4X4 drivers- Now go and help strand02/12/10 17:44:00 Laurence Truett
                                                                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:4X4 drivers- Now go and help stranded people in the country02/12/10 18:52:00 Steve Taylor
                                                                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:4X4 drivers- Now go and help strand02/12/10 19:05:00 Laurence Truett
                                                                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:4X4 drivers- Now go and help strand02/12/10 19:44:00 Steve Taylor
                                                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:4X4 drivers- Now go and help stranded people in the country02/12/10 14:48:00 Laurence Truett
   For Laurence: what would Jesus drive?02/12/10 15:34:00 Patrick ONeill
      Re:For Laurence: what would Jesus drive?02/12/10 16:03:00 Richard Greenhough
         Re:Re:For Laurence: what would Jesus drive?02/12/10 16:22:00 Patrick ONeill
            Re:Re:Re:For Laurence: what would Jesus drive?02/12/10 17:41:00 Laurence Truett
               Re:Re:Re:Re:For Laurence: what would Jesus drive?02/12/10 19:33:00 antony obrien
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:For Laurence: what would Jesus drive?02/12/10 20:19:00 Laurence Truett
            Re:Re:Re:For Laurence: what would Jesus drive?02/12/10 17:47:00 Andrew Dunham
               Re:Re:Re:Re:For Laurence: what would Jesus drive?02/12/10 18:27:00 Laurence Truett
      Re:For Laurence: what would Jesus drive?02/12/10 17:32:00 Laurence Truett
         Re:Re:For Laurence: what would Jesus drive?02/12/10 17:40:00 Patrick ONeill
            Re:Re:Re:For Laurence: what would Jesus drive?02/12/10 17:45:00 Laurence Truett
               Re:Re:Re:Re:For Laurence: what would Jesus drive?02/12/10 17:58:00 Jonathan Bingham
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:For Laurence: what would Jesus drive?02/12/10 18:25:00 Laurence Truett
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:For Laurence: what would Jesus drive?02/12/10 21:57:00 Jonathan Bingham
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:For Laurence: what would Jesus drive?02/12/10 22:46:00 Andrew Dunham
               Re:Re:Re:Re:For Laurence: what would Jesus drive?03/12/10 01:34:00 Patrick ONeill
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:For Laurence: what would Jesus drive?03/12/10 03:21:00 Julian Pavey
                     'Whatabouts'...03/12/10 14:58:00 Laurence Truett
                        Re:'Whatabouts'...03/12/10 15:52:00 Richard Greenhough

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