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Topic: Re:Re:How accurate is heathrow webtrak?
Posted by: Claudia Jachtmann
Date/Time: 05/12/07 14:03:00

hi, here are some inputs from other people interested in webtrak and losely associated with and consulting for  airport watch organisations (i did not manage so far to get anything from BAA, but probably not been getting to the right place yet for such a query)

i quote below :


VERY simply put: WEBTRAK is an edited version of the radar data which is 
supplied to the airports by NATS plus, probably, data from their own secondary 
surveillance radar.  I suspect that it's edited twice: once, very  lightly, by
NATS themselves but only to remove any "sensitive" flights, and  again by
Heathrow's own Noise & Track Monitoring System (GEMS, writen by  Lochard, an
Australian outfit for what its worth.)  I'm extrapolating a bit  from practice at
Luton (which uses a different NTK system and, at present, does  NOT permit
public access to it a la WEBTRAK).

At Luton the supplementary data from secondary surveillance radar includes 
the "transponder codes" which are sent by every commercial aircraft these days:
a bit of kit automatically sends data such as aircraft registration, flight 
number, heading, height, rate of climb or descent - pretty much everything 
except the pilot's inside leg measurement.  At Luton their NTK software can 
filter the streams of data and, if they want, exclude data from aircraft not 
relevant to Luton's operations.  And, though it won't be an issue for  Heathrow,
the smallest of the biz-jets and light aircraft do NOT have  transponders
which send loads of data (known to the anoraks as "Mode C".

If your correspondent would like to contact me directly I could talk to her 
about devices: on the lines of that which Steve Charlish described at the
Noise  seminar, which would let the Heathrow folk see the radar tracks for
themselves:  clever little boxes which plug into a PC and, using that Mode C data,
plot the  flight tracks - and, for Heathrow at least, they'd show EVERYTHING 
except  the odd helicopter.  I've recently bought one of the clever little
boxes,  which is why I sound a bit like an anorak (but I'm not really!


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TopicDate PostedPosted By
how accurate is heathrow webtrak?12/11/07 19:23:00 Mike Russell
   Re:how accurate is heathrow webtrak?12/11/07 21:12:00 Claudia Jachtmann
   How accurate is Heathrow webtrak?12/11/07 22:02:00 Kevin Regan
      Re:How accurate is Heathrow webtrak?13/11/07 01:07:00 Richard Jennings
         Re:Re:How accurate is Heathrow webtrak?13/11/07 09:34:00 Mike Russell
            Re:Re:Re:How accurate is Heathrow webtrak?13/11/07 11:15:00 Richard Jennings
               Re:Re:Re:Re:How accurate is Heathrow webtrak?13/11/07 11:45:00 Mike Russell
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:How accurate is Heathrow webtrak?13/11/07 14:18:00 Richard Jennings
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:How accurate is Heathrow webtrak?13/11/07 14:49:00 Ken Munn
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:How accurate is Heathrow webtrak?13/11/07 14:55:00 Richard Jennings
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:How accurate is Heathrow webtrak?13/11/07 14:48:00 Richard Jennings
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:How accurate is Heathrow webtrak?13/11/07 15:16:00 Mike Russell
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:How accurate is Heathrow webtrak?13/11/07 15:20:00 Will Watson
                     How accurate is Heathrow webtrak?13/11/07 20:41:00 Kevin Regan
   Re:how accurate is heathrow webtrak?13/11/07 16:42:00 Claudia Jachtmann
      Re:Re:how accurate is heathrow webtrak?13/11/07 20:30:00 Tim Henderson
   How accurate is heathrow webtrak?13/11/07 22:21:00 Kevin Regan
      Re:How accurate is heathrow webtrak?14/11/07 02:42:00 Richard Jennings
         Re:Re:How accurate is heathrow webtrak?04/12/07 22:43:00 Mike Russell
            Re:Re:Re:How accurate is heathrow webtrak?05/12/07 08:04:00 Tom Pike
               Re:Re:Re:Re:How accurate is heathrow webtrak?05/12/07 11:41:00 Richard Jennings
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:How accurate is heathrow webtrak?05/12/07 13:28:00 Tom Pike
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:How accurate is heathrow webtrak?05/12/07 14:00:00 Richard Jennings
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:How accurate is heathrow webtrak?05/12/07 14:42:00 Mike Russell
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:How accurate is heathrow webtrak?05/12/07 14:48:00 Richard Jennings
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:How accurate is heathrow webtrak?05/12/07 16:10:00 Tom Pike
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:How accurate is heathrow webtrak?05/12/07 16:48:00 Richard Jennings
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:How accurate is heathrow webtrak?05/12/07 18:07:00 Tom Pike
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:How accurate is heathrow webtrak?05/12/07 20:04:00 Keith Naylor
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:How accurate is heathrow webtrak?05/12/07 23:35:00 Mike Russell
            How accurate is heathrow webtrak?05/12/07 08:13:00 Kevin Regan
               Re:How accurate is heathrow webtrak?05/12/07 14:14:00 Claudia Jachtmann
                  Re:Re:How accurate is heathrow webtrak?05/12/07 14:43:00 Richard Jennings
                     Re:Re:Re:How accurate is heathrow webtrak?05/12/07 16:26:00 Tom Pike
         Re:Re:How accurate is heathrow webtrak?05/12/07 14:03:00 Claudia Jachtmann
            odd that06/12/07 00:07:00 Claudia Jachtmann
               doh - my mistake - all sorted now06/12/07 00:08:00 Claudia Jachtmann
   Re:how accurate is heathrow webtrak?06/12/07 22:39:00 Richard Jennings
      Re:Re:how accurate is heathrow webtrak?06/12/07 23:09:00 Mike Russell
         how accurate is heathrow webtrak?06/12/07 23:33:00 S Berlincioni
         Re:Re:Re:how accurate is heathrow webtrak?06/12/07 23:37:00 Tom Pike
         How accurate is heathrow webtrak?07/12/07 00:06:00 Kevin Regan
            Re:How accurate is heathrow webtrak?07/12/07 08:03:00 Tom Pike
         Re:Re:Re:how accurate is heathrow webtrak?07/12/07 00:22:00 Richard Jennings
            Re:Re:Re:Re:how accurate is heathrow webtrak?07/12/07 00:41:00 S Berlincioni
            Re:Re:Re:Re:how accurate is heathrow webtrak?09/12/07 21:15:00 Tim Henderson
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:how accurate is heathrow webtrak?09/12/07 23:20:00 Claudia Jachtmann
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:how accurate is heathrow webtrak?10/12/07 00:28:00 Richard Jennings
      Re:Re:how accurate is heathrow webtrak?09/01/08 21:44:00 Richard Jennings
         How accurate is heathrow webtrak?09/01/08 23:24:00 Kevin Regan
            Re:How accurate is heathrow webtrak?10/01/08 00:04:00 Richard Jennings
               How accurate is heathrow webtrak?10/01/08 22:13:00 Kevin Regan
                  Re:How accurate is heathrow webtrak?28/03/09 20:14:00 Tim Henderson
                     Re:Re:How accurate is heathrow webtrak?29/03/09 01:39:00 Peter Millman
                        Re:Re:Re:How accurate is heathrow webtrak?29/03/09 08:44:00 Tom Pike
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:How accurate is heathrow webtrak?23/01/15 00:45:00 Claudia Jachtmann
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:How accurate is heathrow webtrak?23/01/15 10:18:00 Tim Henderson
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:How accurate is heathrow webtrak?23/01/15 16:46:00 Dave Robertson
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:How accurate is heathrow webtrak?25/01/15 13:42:00 Dave Robertson
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:How accurate is heathrow webtrak?25/01/15 15:53:00 Richard Jennings
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:How accurate is heathrow webtrak?23/01/15 12:07:00 Richard Jennings
                                 pls read first before replying on this thread23/01/15 13:03:00 Claudia Jachtmann
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:How accurate is heathrow webtrak?23/01/15 13:17:00 Claudia Jachtmann

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