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Topic: Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Labour getting desperate?
Posted by: Francis Rowe
Date/Time: 17/07/25 16:05:00

That's not really accurate. The 2005 commitment was to have a vote on a specific EU Constitutional Act, not membership. That was scrapped after other countries voted against it so Labour was no longer bound by its manifesto.

There is a strong argument that they should have held a referendum on the Lisbon Treaty as it served much the same purpose as the Constitutional Act but they were never obliged to do so. You are wrong that there would have been a yes vote - it would almost certainly have been rejected. However, although Euroscepticism was growing at this point, the country was still substantially in favour of EU membership. You may be right that a refusal to have a vote on the Lisbon Treaty increased anti-EU feeling that led to Brexit or it could be that a No vote would have meant that we made the disastrous decision to leave even sooner meaning we would be even poorer than we are now.


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Labour getting desperate?17/07/25 15:22:00 Keith Iddon
   Re:Labour getting desperate?17/07/25 15:27:00 Francis Rowe
      Re:Re:Labour getting desperate?17/07/25 15:37:00 Keith Iddon
         Re:Re:Re:Labour getting desperate?17/07/25 15:40:00 Francis Rowe
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Labour getting desperate?17/07/25 15:44:00 Keith Iddon
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Labour getting desperate?17/07/25 16:05:00 Francis Rowe
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Labour getting desperate?17/07/25 16:18:00 Andrew Jones
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Labour getting desperate?17/07/25 16:29:00 Vanessa Smith
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Labour getting desperate?17/07/25 16:38:00 Sam Hearn
   Re:Labour getting desperate?17/07/25 17:10:00 Janice Evans
      Re:Re:Labour getting desperate?17/07/25 17:57:00 Chris Dakers
         Re:Re:Re:Labour getting desperate?17/07/25 18:42:00 Vanessa Smith
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Labour getting desperate?17/07/25 19:16:00 Andrew Jones
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Labour getting desperate?17/07/25 21:23:00 Brian Green
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Labour getting desperate?17/07/25 22:43:00 Julian Pavey
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Labour getting desperate?17/07/25 23:16:00 Julian Pavey
   Re:Labour getting desperate?18/07/25 08:08:00 Susan Kelly
      Re:Re:Labour getting desperate?18/07/25 09:00:00 Andrew Jones
         Re:Re:Re:Labour getting desperate?18/07/25 11:49:00 Janice Evans
         Re:Re:Re:Labour getting desperate?18/07/25 12:10:00 Richard Greenhough
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Labour getting desperate?18/07/25 12:18:00 Keith Iddon
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Labour getting desperate?18/07/25 12:22:00 Nicholas Beard
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Labour getting desperate?18/07/25 14:11:00 Janice Evans
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Labour getting desperate?18/07/25 15:39:00 Vanessa Smith
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Labour getting desperate?18/07/25 15:59:00 Keith Iddon
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Labour getting desperate?18/07/25 16:21:00 Andrew Jones
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Labour getting desperate?18/07/25 16:50:00 Steve Taylor
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Labour getting desperate?18/07/25 17:03:00 Andrew Jones
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Labour getting desperate?18/07/25 20:17:00 Steve Taylor
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Labour getting desperate?18/07/25 23:02:00 Andrew Jones
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Labour getting desperate?18/07/25 17:01:00 Keith Iddon
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Labour getting desperate?18/07/25 19:00:00 Vanessa Smith
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Labour getting desperate?18/07/25 20:23:00 Denis I. Fox
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Labour getting desperate?18/07/25 21:42:00 Janice Evans
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Labour getting desperate?18/07/25 22:37:00 Roland Bolowski
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Labour getting desperate?18/07/25 22:51:00 Keith Iddon
   Re:Labour getting desperate?19/07/25 02:50:00 Dave Mannisa
      Re:Re:Labour getting desperate?19/07/25 09:32:00 Steve Taylor

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