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Topic: Re:Re:Re:Falsifications by Francis Rowe  on this thread
Posted by: Steve Taylor
Date/Time: 17/06/25 17:11:00


Dear Mr Rowe, thanks for your elaborate response. Your opinions are appreciated and make quite interesting reading albeit that you are wrong again just as you were wrong about Biden.

I would have thought that my tongue in cheek or throwaway comment about O’Brien was clearly intended to be what it is; a throwaway comment not to be taken as fact. A lighthearted joke if you like. Clearly you took it literally. However, now that you are intent on making an issue of it it is clear that I need to highlight your FALSE claim.

He is certainly not one of the most popular
Presenters on radio. Whilst I am a staunch ‘Remainer’ I would suggest that most of his listeners are also Remainers who don’t find his self centred rants as irritating as I do.

While he does have a large and dedicated audience, his weekly listenership is around 1.5 million. This translates to an average of roughly 214,000 listeners per day, according to Global Media & Entertainment. 
This is not over 2 million a day as you assert. Your assertion is FALSE!


Jamie Theakston hosts the UK's largest commercial breakfast show, reaching 4.3 million weekly listeners. Heart, the radio brand, is also celebrating a record-breaking 13.4 million weekly listeners overall, making it the number one commercial radio brand in the UK. 

BBC Radio 4 has approximately 5.6m tuning in for The Today programme every day.

A report by spending watchdog, the National Audit Office (NAO), says that the number for housing Asylum Seekers is now expected to be £15.3bn.  Hence your assertion that the £1.5billion saved by cancelling the WFA is half the TOTAL cost of housing asylum seekers is essentially untrue.

The remainder of your FACTS are based only on your opinion or interpretation of facts. Nothing more; but I do agree with your view that  “ In terms of social and economic policy, only the Conservatives offer a straightforwardly right wing alternative. “

On the issue of Rwanda your opinion is noted but it should be noted that the Supreme Court concluded that deficiencies in the Government of Rwanda's arrangements for determining asylum claims could lead to risks of refoulement. The key word is “could” !! And in any event the refoulement issue was addressed by Rishi Sunak’s government.

In response to the Supreme Court:

“The Home Secretary made a statement to Parliament that in response to the conclusion of the Supreme Court, a new treaty between the UK and Rwanda would be finalised containing assurances about the adequacy of the Rwandan asylum process and a provision that reinforces the principle of non-refoulement – a key issue identified by the Supreme Court. The Prime Minister also announced that the UK Government would introduce new legislation to enable Parliament to confirm that, with the new treaty, Rwanda is a safe country.”

Therefore my statement that “The Rwanda deal would have ensured a safe haven for asylum seekers”  is not at all false. It’s 100% true. Your response to my claim is indeed totally false. It is clear that your own prejudices get the better of you.

That’s fine - you are fully entitled to your opinions but that’s all they are; opinions.


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TopicDate PostedPosted By
Cllr Ranjit Gill defects from the Conservatives to Labour27/05/25 22:03:00 Michael Robinson
   Re:Cllr Ranjit Gill defects from the Conservatives to Labour28/05/25 09:31:00 Michael Robinson
      Re:Re:Cllr Ranjit Gill defects from the Conservatives to Labour28/05/25 09:49:00 Steve Taylor
         Re:Re:Re:Cllr Ranjit Gill defects from the Conservatives to Labour30/05/25 16:01:00 Sam Hearn
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Cllr Ranjit Gill defects from the Conservatives to Labour30/05/25 16:39:00 Peter Evans
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cllr Ranjit Gill defects from the Conservatives to Labour30/05/25 17:51:00 Steve Taylor
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cllr Ranjit Gill defects from the Conservatives to Labour30/05/25 20:57:00 Julian Pavey
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cllr Ranjit Gill defects from the Conservatives to Labour30/05/25 21:39:00 Steve Taylor
   Re:Cllr Ranjit Gill defects from the Conservatives to Labour31/05/25 08:58:00 Francis Rowe
      Re:Re:Cllr Ranjit Gill defects from the Conservatives to Labour31/05/25 09:06:00 Steve Taylor
         Re:Re:Re:Cllr Ranjit Gill defects from the Conservatives to Labour03/06/25 13:37:00 Mark Evans
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Cllr Ranjit Gill defects from the Conservatives to Labour03/06/25 13:52:00 Steve Taylor
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cllr Ranjit Gill defects from the Conservatives to Labour03/06/25 14:27:00 Keith Iddon
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cllr Ranjit Gill defects from the Conservatives to Labour03/06/25 18:13:00 Guy Lambert
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cllr Ranjit Gill defects from the Conservatives to Labour03/06/25 18:24:00 Keith Iddon
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cllr Ranjit Gill defects from the Conservatives to Labour03/06/25 23:07:00 Guy Lambert
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cllr Ranjit Gill defects from the Conservatives to Labour03/06/25 23:14:00 Keith Iddon
                              defects from the Conservatives to Labour to Reform04/06/25 20:22:00 Davy Jones
                                 Re:defects from the Conservatives to Labour to Reform05/06/25 15:17:00 Sam Hearn
                                    Re:Re:defects from the Conservatives to Labour to Reform05/06/25 16:30:00 Francis Rowe
                                    Re:Re:defects from the Conservatives to Labour to Reform05/06/25 22:14:00 Steve Taylor
                                       Re:Re:Re:defects from the Conservatives to Labour to Reform06/06/25 09:06:00 Mark Evans
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:defects from the Conservatives to Labour to Reform06/06/25 20:58:00 Sam Hearn
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:defects from the Conservatives to Labour to Reform06/06/25 22:51:00 Julian Pavey
                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:defects from the Conservatives to Labour to Reform06/06/25 23:48:00 Steve Taylor
                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:defects from the Conservatives to Labour to Reform07/06/25 12:47:00 Vanessa Smith
                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:defects from the Conservatives to Labour to Reform10/06/25 12:15:00 Sam Hearn
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:defects from the Conservatives to Labour to Reform10/06/25 15:27:00 Dave Mannisa
                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:defects from the Conservatives to Labour to Reform10/06/25 21:28:00 Steve Taylor
                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:defects from the Conservatives to Labour to Reform11/06/25 14:27:00 Francis Rowe
                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:defects from the Conservatives to Labour to Reform12/06/25 12:55:00 Janice Evans
                                                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:defects from the Conservatives to Labour to Reform13/06/25 14:14:00 Steve Taylor
                                                            Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:defects from the Conservatives to Labour to Reform13/06/25 14:45:00 Janice Evans
                                                               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:defects from the Conservatives to Labour to Reform13/06/25 17:10:00 Steve Taylor
                                                            Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:defects from the Conservatives to Labour to Reform13/06/25 15:59:00 David Burke
                                                               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:defects from the Conservatives to Labour to Reform13/06/25 16:26:00 Janice Evans
                                                                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:defects from the Conservatives to Labour to Reform13/06/25 17:17:00 Steve Taylor
                                                                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:defects from the Conservatives to Labour to Reform13/06/25 19:07:00 Janice Evans
                                                                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:defects from the Conservatives to Labour to Reform13/06/25 19:08:00 Janice Evans
                                                                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:defects from the Conservatives to Labour to Reform13/06/25 20:02:00 Steve Taylor
                                                               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:defects from the Conservatives to Labour to Reform13/06/25 20:23:00 Dave Mannisa
                                                                  Re:Re:defects from the Conservatives to Labour to Reform13/06/25 20:48:00 Steve Taylor
                                                                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:defects from the Conservatives to Labour to Reform13/06/25 20:52:00 Davy Jones
                                                                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:defects from the Conservatives to Labour to Reform13/06/25 22:04:00 Dave Mannisa
                                                                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:defects from the Conservatives to Labour to Reform14/06/25 14:38:00 Janice Evans
                                                                           Re:Re:defects from the Conservatives to Labour to Reform15/06/25 09:20:00 Steve Taylor
                                                                              Re:Re:Re:defects from the Conservatives to Labour to Reform15/06/25 13:06:00 Janice Evans
                                                                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:defects from the Conservatives to Labour to Reform15/06/25 13:41:00 Julian Pavey
                                                                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:defects from the Conservatives to Labour to Reform15/06/25 15:44:00 Denis I. Fox
                                                                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:defects from the Conservatives to Labour to Reform15/06/25 16:05:00 Janice Evans
                                                                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:defects from the Conservatives to Labour to Reform15/06/25 16:07:00 Janice Evans
                                                                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:defects from the Conservatives to Labour to Reform15/06/25 16:17:00 Janice Evans
                                                                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:defects from the Conservatives to Labour to Reform15/06/25 18:18:00 Steve Taylor
                                                                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:defects from the Conservatives to Labour to Reform16/06/25 12:05:00 Robert Fish
                                                                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:defects from the Conservatives to Labour to Reform16/06/25 12:34:00 Francis Rowe
                                                                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:defects from the Conservatives to Labour to Reform16/06/25 14:36:00 David Burke
                                                                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:defects from the Conservatives to Labour to Reform16/06/25 15:05:00 Mark Evans
                                                                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:defects from the Conservatives to Labour to Reform16/06/25 15:05:00 Richard Greenhough
                                                                                                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:defects from the Conservatives to Labour to Reform16/06/25 16:23:00 Steve Taylor
                                                                                                            Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:defects from the Conservatives to Labour to Reform16/06/25 16:47:00 Francis Rowe
                                                                                                               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:defects from the Conservatives to Labour to Reform16/06/25 17:53:00 Steve Taylor
                                                                                                               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:defects from the Conservatives to Labour to Reform16/06/25 18:23:00 Steve Taylor
                                                                                                            Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:defects from the Conservatives to Labour to Reform16/06/25 17:04:00 Robert Fish
                                                                                                               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:defects from the Conservatives to Labour to Reform16/06/25 18:16:00 Steve Taylor
                                                                                                                  Falsifications by Steve Taylor on this thread17/06/25 09:27:00 Francis Rowe
                                                                                                                     Re:Falsifications by Steve Taylor on this thread17/06/25 14:47:00 Janice Evans
                                                                                                                        Re:Re:Falsifications by Steve Taylor on this thread17/06/25 15:02:00 Keith Iddon
                                                                                                                        Re:Re:Falsifications by Steve Taylor on this thread17/06/25 17:09:00 Steve Taylor
                                                                                                                           Re:Re:Re:Falsifications by Francis Rowe  on this thread17/06/25 17:11:00 Steve Taylor
                                                                                                                           Re:Re:Re:Falsifications by Steve Taylor on this thread17/06/25 21:50:00 Janice Evans
                                                                                                                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Falsifications by Janice on this thread17/06/25 23:15:00 Steve Taylor
                                                                                                                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Falsifications by Janice on this thread18/06/25 11:57:00 Janice Evans
                                                                                                                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Falsifications by Janice on this thread18/06/25 12:55:00 Steve Taylor
                                                                                                                                       Re:Silly Steve lives up to his nickname18/06/25 13:15:00 Richard Greenhough
                                                                                                                                          Re:Re: Dick Gintrough at it again 18/06/25 15:43:00 Steve Taylor
                                                                                                                                             Re:Re:Re: Dick Gintrough at it again 18/06/25 15:52:00 Steve Taylor
                                                                                                                                                Whereas..18/06/25 16:12:00 Keith Iddon
                                                                                                                                                   Re:Whereas..Keith Idiot joins the gang 18/06/25 16:41:00 Steve Taylor
                                                                                                                                                      Re:Re:Whereas..18/06/25 16:47:00 Keith Iddon
                                                                                                                                                         Re:Re:Re:Whereas..18/06/25 16:56:00 Janice Evans
                                                                                                                                                      Re:Re:Whereas..Keith Idiot joins the gang 18/06/25 17:09:00 David Burke
                                                                                                                                                      Re:Re:Whereas..Steve just gets sillier18/06/25 17:19:00 Richard Greenhough
                                                                                                                                                         Re:Re:Re:Whereas..Steve just gets sillier18/06/25 17:25:00 Keith Iddon
                                                                                                                                          Re:Re:Silly Steve lives up to his nickname18/06/25 17:11:00 Janice Evans
                                                                                                                                             Re:Re:Re:  Janice tells porkies 18/06/25 18:27:00 Steve Taylor
                                                                                                                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:  Janice tells porkies 18/06/25 18:35:00 Janice Evans
                                                                                                                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:  Janice tells porkies 18/06/25 18:37:00 Janice Evans
                                                                                                                                                No Steve..18/06/25 18:41:00 Keith Iddon
                                                                                                                                                   Re:No Steve..18/06/25 18:45:00 Janice Evans
                                                                                                                                                      Re:Re:No Steve..18/06/25 18:56:00 Keith Iddon
                                                                                                                                                         But neither actually either said it18/06/25 20:20:00 Davy Jones
                                                                                                                                                            Re:But neither actually either said it18/06/25 23:52:00 Denis I. Fox
                                                                                                                                                               Re:Re:But neither actually either said it19/06/25 07:30:00 David Burke
                                                                                                                                                                  Re:Re:Re:But neither actually either said it19/06/25 16:25:00 Denis I. Fox
                                                                                                                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:  Janice tells porkies 18/06/25 23:20:00 Dave Mannisa
                                                                                                                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:  Janice tells porkies 19/06/25 12:14:00 Janice Evans
                                                                                                                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:  Janice tells porkies 19/06/25 12:21:00 Janice Evans

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