Conservative Party Manifesto, 1970 - "If we can negotiate the right terms, we believe that it would be in the long-term interest of the British people for Britain to join the European Economic Community, and that it would make a major contribution to both the prosperity and the security of our country. The opportunities are immense. Economic growth and a higher standard of living would result from having a larger market. But we must also recognise the obstacles. There would be short-term disadvantages in Britain going into the European Economic Community which must be weighed against the long-term benefits. Obviously there is a price we would not be prepared to pay. Only when we negotiate will it be possible to determine whether the balance is a fair one, and in the interests of Britain. Our sole commitment is to negotiate; no more, no less. As the negotiations proceed we will report regularly through Parliament to the country." Nothing there about the political aspects of the EEC and ever-closer union, nor about joining it without any opportunity for the electorate to express its opinion on the terms of the deal. Labour Party manifesto February 1974 - "The Common Market now threatens us with still higher food prices and with a further loss of Britain's control of its own affairs. We shall restore to the British people the right to decide the final issue of British membership of the Common Market. The British people were never consulted about the Market. Britain is a European nation, and a Labour Britain would always seek a wider co-operation between the European peoples. But a profound political mistake made by the Heath Government was to accept the terms of entry to the Common Market, and to take us in without the consent of the British people. This has involved the imposition of food taxes on top of rising world prices, crippling fresh burdens on our balance of payments, and a draconian curtailment of the power of the British Parliament to settle questions affecting vital British interests. This is why a Labour Government will immediately seek a fundamental re negotiation of the terms of entry. We have spelled out in Labour's Programme for Britain our objectives in the new negotiations which must take place: The Labour Party opposes British membership of the European Communities on the terms negotiated by the Conservative Government." Not that their renegotiation made much difference to those terms. Labour Party Manifesto October 1974 - "Our genuine concern for democratic rights is in sharp contrast to the Tory attitude. In the greatest single peacetime decision of this century - Britain's membership of the Common Market - the British people were not given a chance to say whether or not they agreed to the terms accepted by the Tory Government. Both the Conservatives and the Liberals have refused to endorse the rights of our people to make their own decision. Only the Labour Party is committed to the right of the men and women of this country to make this unique decision." A significant lack of explanation of what signing up to the Treaty of Rome and its aim of ever-closer union meant by either governing party before the UK joined and before the post-event referendum.

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Topic	Date Posted	Posted By
US election result and Brexit	06/11/20 20:04:00	Sean Wales
Re:US election result and Brexit	06/11/20 20:08:00	Claire Moran
Re:Re:US election result and Brexit	06/11/20 22:09:00	Andrew Jones
Re:Re:Re:US election result and Brexit	06/11/20 22:16:00	Vivienne Cox
Re:Re:Re:Re:US election result and Brexit	07/11/20 08:49:00	Alan Clark
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:US election result and Brexit	07/11/20 09:19:00	Colin Jordan
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:US election result and Brexit	07/11/20 09:58:00	Basil Finnis
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:US election result and Brexit	07/11/20 10:39:00	Alastair Banton
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:US election result and Brexit	07/11/20 10:50:00	Paul Fisher
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:US election result and Brexit	07/11/20 11:05:00	Colin Jordan
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:US election result and Brexit	07/11/20 11:08:00	Alan Clark
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:US election result and Brexit	07/11/20 11:11:00	Julian Pavey
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:US election result and Brexit	07/11/20 11:12:00	Janice Evans
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:US election result and Brexit	07/11/20 11:15:00	Bruce Hammal
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:US election result and Brexit	07/11/20 11:20:00	Janice Evans
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:US election result and Brexit	07/11/20 11:17:00	Julian Pavey
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:US election result and Brexit	07/11/20 11:51:00	Janice Evans
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:US election result and Brexit	07/11/20 11:51:00	Janice Evans
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:US election result and Brexit	07/11/20 13:15:00	David Lesniak
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:US election result and Brexit	07/11/20 13:19:00	Janice Evans
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:US election result and Brexit	07/11/20 15:24:00	David Lesniak
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:US election result and Brexit	07/11/20 16:28:00	Janice Evans
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:US election result and Brexit	07/11/20 12:55:00	Richard Greenhough
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:US election result and Brexit	07/11/20 14:36:00	Alastair Banton
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:US election result and Brexit	07/11/20 16:11:00	Alan Clark
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:US election result and Brexit	07/11/20 16:13:00	John Hickman
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:US election result and Brexit	07/11/20 18:19:00	Richard Greenhough
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:US election result and Brexit	07/11/20 18:23:00	Jeffrey Cope
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:US election result and Brexit	07/11/20 19:18:00	Claire Moran
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:US election result and Brexit	07/11/20 20:27:00	Janice Evans
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:US election result and Brexit	08/11/20 00:36:00	Alan Clark
Myth	08/11/20 12:09:00	John Whitworth
Re:Myth	08/11/20 12:40:00	Huw Burford-Taylor
Re:Re:Myth or Concealment ?	08/11/20 12:57:00	Richard Greenhough
Still a myth	08/11/20 13:12:00	John Whitworth
Re:Facts	08/11/20 16:57:00	Richard Greenhough
A significant lack of explanation	08/11/20 18:07:00	John Whitworth
Re:Bringing us up to date	08/11/20 19:07:00	Richard Greenhough
Re:Bringing us up to date	08/11/20 19:23:00	John Whitworth
Re:Re:Bringing us up to date	08/11/20 19:43:00	Richard Greenhough
It's a conspiracy	08/11/20 19:49:00	John Whitworth
Re:Re:Re:Bringing us up to date	08/11/20 20:32:00	Alan Clark
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:US election result and Brexit	08/11/20 14:18:00	John Hickman
Re:US election result and Brexit	07/11/20 17:02:00	Alan Clark
Re:US election result and Brexit	07/11/20 19:01:00	Stephen Francis
Re:Re:US election result and Brexit	07/11/20 19:21:00	Claire Moran
Re:US election result and Brexit	07/11/20 22:43:00	Stewart Jones
Re:US election result and Brexit	07/11/20 23:13:00	c james
Re:Re:US election result and Brexit	08/11/20 02:56:00	Andrew Jones
Re:Re:Re:US election result and Brexit	08/11/20 07:41:00	James Smith-Jones
Re:Re:US election result and Brexit	08/11/20 07:35:00	Alastair Banton
Re:Re:Re:US election result and Brexit	08/11/20 07:47:00	James Smith-Jones
Re:Re:Re:Re:US election result and Brexit	08/11/20 09:42:00	Colin Jordan
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:US election result and Brexit	08/11/20 09:59:00	Alan Clark
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:US election result and Brexit	08/11/20 11:11:00	Huw Burford-Taylor
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:US election result and Brexit	08/11/20 11:35:00	Joe Conneely
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:US election result and Brexit	08/11/20 11:46:00	Bobbie Carnegie
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:US election result and Brexit	08/11/20 12:21:00	Alan Clark
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:US election result and Brexit	08/11/20 13:11:00	Andrew Jones
Re:Re:Re:US election result and Brexit	08/11/20 16:20:00	c james
Re:Re:US election result and Brexit	08/11/20 11:26:00	David Lesniak
Re:Re:Re:US election result and Brexit	08/11/20 16:38:00	Julian Pavey
Re:Re:Re:Re:US election result and Brexit	08/11/20 17:10:00	Alan Clark
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:US election result and Brexit	09/11/20 16:34:00	James Roy
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:US election result and Brexit	09/11/20 17:17:00	Richard Greenhough
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:US election result and Brexit	09/11/20 23:59:00	Andrew Jones
Re:Re:Re:Re:US election result and Brexit	08/11/20 17:14:00	Russell Pearson
Re:Re:Re:Re:US election result and Brexit	08/11/20 18:14:00	Andrew Jones
Re:US election result and Brexit	08/11/20 18:18:00	John Whitworth
Re:Re:US election result and Brexit	08/11/20 18:31:00	David Grantley
Re:Re:US election result and Brexit	08/11/20 18:37:00	Andrew Jones
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:US election result and Brexit	08/11/20 19:19:00	Bobbie Carnegie
Re:Re:Re:Re:US election result and Brexit	08/11/20 18:56:00	Claire Moran
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:US election result and Brexit	08/11/20 19:02:00	Alan Clark
Re:Re:Re:Re:US election result and Brexit	08/11/20 21:31:00	Alan Clark
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:US election result and Brexit	09/11/20 08:36:00	Paul Corcoran
Re:Re:Re:US election result and Brexit	09/11/20 08:54:00	Basil Finnis
Re:Re:Re:Re:US election result and Brexit	09/11/20 09:15:00	Richard Greenhough
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:US election result and Brexit	09/11/20 10:45:00	Janice Evans
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:US election result and Brexit	09/11/20 12:41:00	Stewart Jones
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:US election result and Brexit	09/11/20 13:00:00	Janice Evans
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:US election result and Brexit	09/11/20 13:31:00	Alan Clark
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:US election result and Brexit	09/11/20 13:33:00	Janice Evans
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:US election result and Brexit	09/11/20 13:38:00	Richard Greenhough
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:US election result and Brexit	09/11/20 13:44:00	Janice Evans
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:US election result and Brexit	09/11/20 16:10:00	Brian Coyle
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:US election result and Brexit	09/11/20 16:20:00	Janice Evans
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:US election result and Brexit	09/11/20 16:29:00	Brian Coyle
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:US election result and Brexit	09/11/20 16:42:00	Alan Clark
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:US election result and Brexit	09/11/20 17:25:00	Julian Pavey
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:US election result and Brexit	09/11/20 17:33:00	Julian Pavey
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:US election result and Brexit	09/11/20 17:38:00	Robert Fish
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:US election result and Brexit	09/11/20 18:14:00	Julian Pavey
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:US election result and Brexit	09/11/20 17:31:00	Brian Coyle
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:US election result and Brexit	09/11/20 17:47:00	Francis Rowe
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:US election result and Brexit	09/11/20 18:10:00	Brian Coyle
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:US election result and Brexit	09/11/20 17:47:00	Keith Iddon
Re:US election result, Brexit, and Gina Miller	09/11/20 18:23:00	Russell Pearson
Re:Re:US election result, Brexit, and Gina Miller	09/11/20 18:31:00	Robert Fish
Re:Re:Re:US election result, Brexit, and Gina Miller	09/11/20 18:41:00	Russell Pearson
Re:Re:Re:Re:US election result, Brexit, and Gina Miller	09/11/20 19:10:00	Robert Fish
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:US election result, Brexit, and Gina Miller	09/11/20 19:21:00	Alan Clark
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:US election result, Brexit, and Gina Miller	09/11/20 19:29:00	Russell Pearson
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:US election result, Brexit, and Gina Miller	09/11/20 20:57:00	Alan Clark
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:US election result, Brexit, and Gina Miller	09/11/20 21:13:00	Russell Pearson
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:US election result, Brexit, and Gina Miller	09/11/20 21:22:00	Alan Clark
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:US election result, Brexit, and Gina Miller	09/11/20 21:45:00	Russell Pearson
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:US election result, Brexit, and Gina Miller	09/11/20 22:02:00	Alan Clark
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:US election result, Brexit, and Gina Miller	09/11/20 22:13:00	Alan Clark
A few thoughts	10/11/20 09:44:00	Huw Burford-Taylor
Re:A few thoughts	10/11/20 12:35:00	Andrew Jones
Brian Coyle	10/11/20 09:13:00	David Lesniak
Re:Brian Coyle	10/11/20 11:17:00	Stewart Jones
Re:Re:UK & USA	10/11/20 11:40:00	Richard Greenhough
Re:Re:Re:UK & USA	10/11/20 13:18:00	Stewart Jones
Re:Re:Re:Re:UK & USA	10/11/20 13:59:00	Richard Greenhough
Re:Re:Brian Coyle	10/11/20 11:54:00	Alan Clark
Re:Re:Re:Brian Coyle	10/11/20 13:19:00	David Lesniak
Last election.	10/11/20 13:44:00	Keith Iddon

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