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Topic: Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Emergency services - not consulted?
Posted by: David Millar
Date/Time: 21/01/16 16:52:00

Hello All in the LB of Houn-slow. I live just across the border in H&F. I think it is appropriate to bring a number of matters to your attention.
1) The 20 MPH speed consultation in H&F attracted over 2,500 responses. Our Council spun the results and claimed 71% of residents supported their proposal for a borough wide 20 MPH limit. In fact the honest answer was 46% supported the proposal, 29% were against and 26% said yes but only on some roads. When asked what roads should be excluded it was clear the likes of the Goldhawk/Uxbridge/Fulham Palace etc should remain at 30.
2) In H&F the police will not be enforcing the 20 MPH limit, as indeed they currently do not enforce the 30 MPH limit. In fact the yellow speed cameras along the likes of the A316 are no longer in action (though I do not advise testing this) as the cuts to police budgets mean they do not have the resource to enforce speed limits other than identifiable black spots.
3) My street currently has a 20 MPH speed limit and a straw poll of neighbours showed the majority did not know this.
4)What is lacking in both Councils proposals is any measure of common-sense. Most people drive to the conditions of the road relative to traffic density, sight-lines, parked cars etc. It is a sad fact that a few drivers (and bear in mind the increase in delivery vans from Amazon et al) will always want to get to their destination asap. No amount of speed limits/preventions will slow these people.
5)Pollution - a growing problem and stationary/slow traffic will exacerbate this.
6) Whilst most people would laud the aim of reducing accidents and casualties what the proposals are doing is taking a sledgehammer to the problem rather than a proper analysis of the causal factors and location clusters and then implementing specific measures appropriate to the road conditions.

Sadly, at the end of the day, the politicians think that by having a blanket 20 MPH limit all will be resolved. We have been making this point in H&F and it is interesting that the Council's Cabinet, who were due to make a decision on 11th January, have now deferred it.

Come on Houn-slow, stand up and make sense.


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20 mph limit Chiswick High Rd. ditto Chiswick Lane26/09/15 10:03:00 John Todd
   Re:20 mph limit Chiswick High Rd. ditto Chiswick Lane26/09/15 10:19:00 Susan Kelly
      Re:Re:20 mph limit Chiswick High Rd. ditto Chiswick Lane26/09/15 10:20:00 Stephen Gould
         Re:Re:Re:20 mph limit Chiswick High Rd. ditto Chiswick Lane26/09/15 10:37:00 Jonathan Bingham
            Re:Re:Re:Re:20 mph limit Chiswick High Rd. ditto Chiswick Lane26/09/15 10:47:00 Michael Robinson
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:20 mph limit Chiswick High Rd. ditto Chiswick Lane26/09/15 11:07:00 Loraine Pemberton
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:20 mph limit Chiswick High Rd. ditto Chiswick Lane26/09/15 11:38:00 Michael Robinson
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:20 mph limit Chiswick High Rd. ditto Chiswick Lane26/09/15 11:19:00 Carl Wynne
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:20 mph limit Chiswick High Rd. ditto Chiswick Lane26/09/15 11:42:00 Paul Green
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:20 mph limit Chiswick High Rd. ditto Chiswick Lane26/09/15 11:57:00 Steve Taylor
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:20 mph limit Chiswick High Rd. ditto Chiswick Lane26/09/15 11:58:00 Michael Robinson
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:20 mph limit Chiswick High Rd. ditto Chiswick Lane26/09/15 15:44:00 John Southey
   Re:20 mph limit Chiswick High Rd. ditto Chiswick Lane28/09/15 09:03:00 Felicity Caborn
      Re:Re:20 mph limit Chiswick High Rd. ditto Chiswick Lane28/09/15 10:18:00 Tim Garfoot
         Re:Re:Re:20 mph limit Chiswick High Rd. ditto Chiswick Lane28/09/15 10:29:00 Paul Green
         Re:Re:Re:20 mph limit Chiswick High Rd. ditto Chiswick Lane28/09/15 11:27:00 Michael Robinson
            Re:Re:Re:Re:20 mph limit Chiswick High Rd. ditto Chiswick Lane28/09/15 12:56:00 Michael Robinson
            Re:Re:Re:Re:20 mph limit Chiswick High Rd. ditto Chiswick Lane21/01/16 15:11:00 Craig McDowell
   Re:20 mph limit Chiswick High Rd. ditto Chiswick Lane19/01/16 11:38:00 Michael Robinson
      Re:Re:20 mph limit Chiswick High Rd. ditto Chiswick Lane19/01/16 13:05:00 Adrian Irving
         Re:Re:Re:20 mph limit Chiswick High Rd. ditto Chiswick Lane19/01/16 13:14:00 Carl Wynne
            Re:Re:Re:Re:20 mph limit Chiswick High Rd. ditto Chiswick Lane19/01/16 14:55:00 Adrian Irving
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:20 mph limit Chiswick High Rd. ditto Chiswick Lane19/01/16 16:11:00 Adrian Irving
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:20 mph limit Chiswick High Rd. ditto Chiswick Lane19/01/16 16:51:00 Alison Neary
         Re:Re:Re:20 mph limit Chiswick High Rd. ditto Chiswick Lane19/01/16 13:38:00 Michael Robinson
            Re:Re:Re:Re:20 mph limit Chiswick High Rd. ditto Chiswick Lane19/01/16 14:07:00 Richard Greenhough
                a few seconds of not concentrating on the speedometer for your speed to sneak up19/01/16 16:43:00 David Grantley
                  Re: a few seconds of not concentrating on the speedometer for your speed to sneak up19/01/16 16:50:00 Will Watson
                     Re:Re: a few seconds of not concentrating on the speedometer for your speed to sneak up19/01/16 17:27:00 Andrew OSullivan
                        Re:Re:Re: a few seconds of not concentrating on the speedometer for your speed to sneak up19/01/16 19:37:00 David Grantley
                           Re:Re:Re:Re: a few seconds of not concentrating on the speedometer for your speed to sneak up19/01/16 20:32:00 Dan Evans
                     No humping19/01/16 17:57:00 Ken Munn
                  Re: a few seconds of not concentrating on the speedometer for your speed to sneak up19/01/16 18:19:00 Carl Wynne
                  Re: a few seconds of not concentrating on the speedometer for your speed to sneak up20/01/16 10:54:00 Richard Greenhough
                     Is it harder at 20mph?20/01/16 11:57:00 Jonathan Bingham
                        Re:Is it harder at 20mph?20/01/16 12:31:00 Richard Greenhough
                           Re:Re:Is it harder at 20mph?20/01/16 19:36:00 Barry Jacques
                        Re:Is it harder at 20mph?20/01/16 12:35:00 Dan Evans
                           Re:Re:Is it harder at 20mph?20/01/16 13:16:00 Michael Robinson
                              Re:Re:Re:Is it harder at 20mph?20/01/16 14:52:00 Dan Evans
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Is it harder at 20mph?20/01/16 15:10:00 Michael Robinson
   Re:20 mph limit Chiswick High Rd. ditto Chiswick Lane19/01/16 17:12:00 David Cuss
      Detail available19/01/16 17:55:00 Ken Munn
         Re:Detail available19/01/16 20:15:00 Linda Leaney
   Re:20 mph limit Chiswick High Rd. ditto Chiswick Lane19/01/16 22:20:00 Mark Perry
      Re:Re:20 mph limit Chiswick High Rd. ditto Chiswick Lane19/01/16 22:57:00 Julian Pavey
         Re:Re:Re:20 mph limit Chiswick High Rd. ditto Chiswick Lane20/01/16 00:34:00 Ken Munn
      Re:Re:20 mph limit Chiswick High Rd. ditto Chiswick Lane20/01/16 08:06:00 Tony Smart
         Re:Re:Re:20 mph limit Chiswick High Rd. ditto Chiswick Lane20/01/16 10:01:00 Mark Perry
   Emergency services - not consulted?19/01/16 22:43:00 Robin Cox
      Re:Emergency services - not consulted?20/01/16 09:34:00 Paul Corcoran
         Re:Re:Emergency services - not consulted?20/01/16 10:07:00 Mark Perry
            Re:Re:Re:Emergency services - not consulted?20/01/16 11:36:00 Paul Corcoran
      Re:Emergency services - not consulted?20/01/16 10:40:00 Will Watson
         Re:Re:Emergency services - not consulted?20/01/16 13:09:00 Tony Smart
            Re:Re:Re:Emergency services - not consulted?21/01/16 10:48:00 Jacqueline Whiston
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Emergency services - not consulted?21/01/16 10:59:00 Chris Calvi-Freeman
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Emergency services - not consulted?21/01/16 11:00:00 Chris Calvi-Freeman
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Emergency services - not consulted?24/01/16 16:54:00 Jacqueline Whiston
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Emergency services - not consulted?21/01/16 11:12:00 Michael Robinson
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Emergency services - not consulted?21/01/16 13:48:00 Carl Wynne
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Emergency services - not consulted?21/01/16 14:58:00 Brian Green
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Emergency services - not consulted?21/01/16 15:14:00 Carl Wynne
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Emergency services - not consulted?21/01/16 15:21:00 Will Watson
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Emergency services - not consulted?21/01/16 15:30:00 Carl Wynne
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Emergency services - not consulted?21/01/16 15:57:00 Nick Jenkins
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Emergency services - not consulted?21/01/16 16:52:00 David Millar
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Emergency services - not consulted?21/01/16 17:59:00 Julian Pavey
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Emergency services - not consulted?21/01/16 21:17:00 David Cuss
                                       Chiswick High Road and Chiswick Lane24/01/16 19:08:00 Francis Rowe
                                          Re:Chiswick High Road and Chiswick Lane24/01/16 19:21:00 Mark Perry
                                          Re:Chiswick High Road and Chiswick Lane24/01/16 19:48:00 Paul Corcoran
                                             Re:Re:Chiswick High Road and Chiswick Lane24/01/16 21:10:00 Jacqueline Whiston
                                                Re:Re:Re:Chiswick High Road and Chiswick Lane25/01/16 00:50:00 Richard Jennings

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