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Topic: Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Question for those  thinking of cycling
Posted by: Michael Robinson
Date/Time: 10/11/15 12:46:00

I agree that there is no justification for banishing novice cyclists to backstreets rather than providing safe, quick and direct routes through places that people actually want to visit.

However commuting only represents about a quarter of trips taken in London with the remainder being for school, shopping and leisure.  Commuting routes tend to be radial into the centre and while these may be useful for some non-work related trips, they will not cover lots of other types of journeys.

Regarding surveys of cyclists and non-cyclists, there is a danger relying on surveys of people who do cycle because this group is dominated by middle aged, middle class white men.  The other 90% or so of the population can't be treated as a homogenous group and I know TfL have segmentation of this to understand how to address different types of people and yes, there will be some who will never cycle under any circumstances.

The ultimate would be to have people on bikes simply being representative of the population as a whole in terms of age, gender, ethnicity and income and the Netherlands gets pretty close but London has disproportionate numbers from a fairly narrow section of the population.


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Question for those  thinking of cycling10/11/15 08:34:00 James Robinson
   Re:Question for those  thinking of cycling10/11/15 08:54:00 Adam Beamish
   Re:Question for those  thinking of cycling10/11/15 09:11:00 Michael Robinson
      Re:Re:Question for those  thinking of cycling10/11/15 09:34:00 Michael Robinson
         Re:Re:Re:Question for those  thinking of cycling10/11/15 10:43:00 James Robinson
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Question for those  thinking of cycling10/11/15 11:18:00 Michael Robinson
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Question for those  thinking of cycling10/11/15 11:49:00 James Robinson
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Question for those  thinking of cycling10/11/15 12:08:00 Michael Robinson
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Question for those  thinking of cycling10/11/15 11:51:00 Will Watson
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Question for those  thinking of cycling10/11/15 12:46:00 Michael Robinson
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Question for those  thinking of cycling10/11/15 12:53:00 James Robinson
   Re:Question for those  thinking of cycling10/11/15 13:52:00 Andy Rooney
      Re:Re:Question for those  thinking of cycling10/11/15 14:00:00 Alison Neary
         Re:Re:Re:Question for those  thinking of cycling10/11/15 14:41:00 Michael Robinson
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Question for those  thinking of cycling10/11/15 14:49:00 Alison Neary
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Question for those  thinking of cycling10/11/15 15:08:00 Michael Robinson
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Question for those  thinking of cycling10/11/15 15:13:00 Alison Neary
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Question for those  thinking of cycling10/11/15 15:16:00 Michael Robinson
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Question for those  thinking of cycling10/11/15 15:20:00 Alison Neary
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Question for those  thinking of cycling10/11/15 15:27:00 Michael Robinson
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Question for those  thinking of cycling10/11/15 15:30:00 Alison Neary
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Question for those  thinking of cycling10/11/15 15:42:00 Michael Robinson
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Question for those  thinking of cycling10/11/15 15:52:00 Alison Neary
   Re:Question for those  thinking of cycling10/11/15 14:45:00 James Petri
      Re:Re:Question for those  thinking of cycling10/11/15 15:03:00 Jonathan Bingham
         Re:Re:Re:Question for those  thinking of cycling10/11/15 15:07:00 Alison Neary
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Question for those  thinking of cycling10/11/15 15:13:00 Michael Robinson
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Question for those  thinking of cycling10/11/15 15:19:00 Alison Neary
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Question for those  thinking of cycling10/11/15 15:35:00 Michael Robinson
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Question for those  thinking of cycling10/11/15 15:21:00 Jonathan Bingham
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Question for those  thinking of cycling10/11/15 15:28:00 Alison Neary
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Question for those  thinking of cycling10/11/15 15:38:00 Jonathan Bingham
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Question for those  thinking of cycling10/11/15 15:50:00 Alison Neary
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Question for those  thinking of cycling10/11/15 16:19:00 Jonathan Bingham
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Question for those  thinking of cycling10/11/15 16:39:00 Alison Neary
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Question for those  thinking of cycling10/11/15 16:54:00 Jonathan Bingham
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Question for those  thinking of cycling10/11/15 17:12:00 Ken Munn
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Question for those  thinking of cycling10/11/15 17:25:00 Alison Neary
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Question for those  thinking of cycling10/11/15 17:34:00 Ken Munn
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Question for those  thinking of cycling10/11/15 17:48:00 Alison Neary
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Question for those  thinking of cycling10/11/15 18:54:00 James Robinson

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