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Topic: Re:Fascist, Cameron, to introduce new government spying laws
Posted by: Michael Brown
Date/Time: 22/10/15 20:42:00

I thought the tory boys might struggle with this thread and, indeed, they have. Gintrough was even hoping it would disappear without a reply. Hardly surprising as this is about the 3rd time he’s been checkmated in as many weeks. Gintrough, you contribute nothing of interest to discuss anyway, and you must be the biggest idiot on here, so best that you disappear. Go away, go on – shoo..!

Sam, whether the term ‘fascist’ is an insult or not when describing someone is subjective. The laws  that Cameron is looking to put in place, combined with other language he’s used of late, suggests to me that he is planning to take us into a period of fascism and, if this proves to be the case, presumably he will be a proud fascist. I have researched the events of 9/11 and 7/7 quite extensively and found the official stories in respect of both events to be full of lies and anomalies, and so have many other people, particularly with 9/11 where many experts have disproven aspects of the official story particular to their field of expertise; yet Cameron says he’s bringing in a law to forbid anyone questioning government narratives of such events, and he specifically refers to 9/11 and 7/7. He calls these people ‘conspiracy theorists’ and holds them partly responsible for people joining ISIS..! This is, of course, complete rubbish – a lie to cover-up the real reason for wanting to silence such voices; and would he really bother with all this just to shut the odd ‘loon’ up? Of course not; but back to my point about fascism: If Cameron, the man who marched in Paris earlier this year after the Charlie Hebdo ‘attack’, in support of ‘freedom of speech’, introduces such a law and uses its powers to incriminate those that question events such as 9/11 and 7/7, and shut down websites that provide alternative narratives, would this not be a fascist act? If not, why not, and how should we describe it?

The law that Cameron is now looking to bring in where the government can hack into peoples computers and phones is also extreme in my opinion. The government will argue that it’s for national security and to help protect us from terrorism; but the results of all the research I’ve carried out, at least in respect of alleged Islamic terrorism, has usually shown that governments were most likely responsible in order to blame Islamists; but let’s assume I’m wrong about this - take away 7/7 and Woolwich, and what's left? We DO NOT have a level of terrorism in this country to justify the measures that Cameron looks set to introduce, and I do not believe that the reason he gives is the real reason for their introduction. He’s already said he’s clamping down on ‘conspiracy theorists’. Why would he do this? Because they are the real threat, that’s why. This latest spying law has nothing to do with terrorism other than to control/silence those who provide evidence that raises doubt about government involvement in terrorism; but again, let’s assume I’m wrong and answer me this: If the government starts hacking into computers and phones of known ‘conspiracy theorists’, would you consider this to be a fascist act? And would you support this behaviour? If so, why? If not, why not? In any event, if this is not fascism, what term would best describe this behaviour? Of course, the trouble that some very decent people may find themselves in as a result of Cameron’s disclosed plans may be eased for them under The Human Rights Act, but he says he wants to abolish that too. If we join the dots together, we see a very bleak picture emerging, and it's a picture of what all this is really about; and it’s not just this country. It seems that all of the Western countries involved in the raping and pillaging of the Middle East are collaborating and using the fake war on terror to introduce Orwellian controls over their own people. France, who have hosted one false flag after another of late, are also introducing laws to shut people up about what they’re doing. And then, of course, there’s the U.S. government, a big player in all this skulduggery. People often ask me on here how all these different alleged terrorist events and hoaxes are linked. Well the US has hosted a number of mass shooting hoaxes; and it’s all about gun control. So how does that fit in with everything I’ve said above? Well if Cameron goes after all those who don’t comply with his declared authoritarian plans, think of the concerns of the authorities if we all had shooters.


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TopicDate PostedPosted By
Fascist, Cameron, to introduce new government spying laws22/10/15 06:05:00 Michael Brown
   Re:Fascist, Cameron, to introduce new government spying laws22/10/15 11:08:00 Alison Neary
   Re:Idiot, Bean, to introduce new conspiracy theory22/10/15 11:16:00 Richard Greenhough
      Re:Re:Idiot, Bean, to introduce new conspiracy theory22/10/15 11:38:00 Cllr Sam Hearn
         Re:Re:Re:Idiot, Bean, to introduce new conspiracy theory22/10/15 11:51:00 Richard Greenhough
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Idiot, Bean, to introduce new conspiracy theory22/10/15 12:10:00 Bernard Allen
               Re:Fascist, Cameron, to introduce new government spying laws22/10/15 20:42:00 Michael Brown
                  Re:Re:Fascist, Cameron, to introduce new government spying laws22/10/15 21:02:00 Claire Moran
                     Re:Re:Re:Fascist, Cameron, to introduce new government spying laws22/10/15 21:20:00 Brian Coyle
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Fascist, Cameron, to introduce new government spying laws22/10/15 21:25:00 Michael Brown
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Fascist, Cameron, to introduce new government spying laws22/10/15 22:12:00 Michael Brown
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Fascist, Cameron, to introduce new government spying laws22/10/15 22:31:00 Paul Green
                                 Re:Idiot, Bean, to introduce new conspiracy theory22/10/15 22:33:00 Richard Greenhough
                                    :Re:Re:Re:Fascist, Cameron, to introduce new government spying laws22/10/15 22:47:00 Michael Brown
                              Western Leaders23/10/15 13:16:00 John Whitworth
                                 Re:Western Leaders23/10/15 13:30:00 Michael Brown
                                    Re:Western Leaders23/10/15 15:26:00 John Whitworth
                                       Re:Re:Western Leaders23/10/15 15:49:00 Michael Brown
                                          Re:Re:Re:Western Leaders23/10/15 15:56:00 Michael Brown
                                          Re:Idiot, Bean, to introduce new conspiracy theory23/10/15 17:52:00 Richard Greenhough
                  Gun Control23/10/15 11:55:00 John Whitworth
                     Re:Gun Control23/10/15 12:16:00 Michael Brown
                        Re:Idiot, Bean, to introduce new conspiracy theory23/10/15 12:35:00 Richard Greenhough
                           Re:Re:Tits23/10/15 14:21:00 bobby osborne
                              Re:Re:Re:Tits23/10/15 14:45:00 Cllr Sam Hearn
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Tits23/10/15 15:13:00 Richard Greenhough
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Tits23/10/15 15:27:00 bobby osborne
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Tits23/10/15 16:05:00 Ann Williams
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Tits23/10/15 17:14:00 Russell Pearson
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Tits23/10/15 17:16:00 Carl Wynne
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Tits23/10/15 17:59:00 Loraine Pemberton
                                             TalkTalk23/10/15 18:58:00 Michael Brown
                                                Re:TalkTalk23/10/15 19:09:00 Brian Coyle
                                                   Re:Re:TalkTalk23/10/15 19:44:00 Michael Brown
                                                      Re:Re:Re:Fascist, Cameron, to introduce new government spying laws23/10/15 22:24:00 Michael Brown
                                                         Re:tits24/10/15 09:06:00 Russell Pearson
                                                         Re:Idiot, Bean, to introduce new conspiracy theory24/10/15 09:57:00 Richard Greenhough
                                                            Re:Re:Re:Fascist, Cameron, to introduce new government spying laws24/10/15 11:23:00 Michael Brown
                                                               Today’s Sunday Express25/10/15 20:36:00 Michael Brown
                                                                  Re:Today’s Sunday Express26/10/15 10:53:00 Michael Brown
                                                                     Irony26/10/15 11:01:00 John Whitworth
                                                                        Re:Idiot, Bean, to introduce new conspiracy theory26/10/15 11:05:00 Richard Greenhough
                                                                           Re:Re:Re:Today’s Sunday Express26/10/15 11:11:00 Michael Brown
                                                                              Re:Idiot, Bean, to introduce new conspiracy theory26/10/15 11:47:00 Richard Greenhough
                                                                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Today’s Sunday Express26/10/15 11:56:00 Michael Brown
                                                                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Today’s Sunday Express26/10/15 15:11:00 Michael Brown
                                                                                       Re:Idiot, Bean, to introduce new conspiracy theory26/10/15 15:27:00 Richard Greenhough
                                                                                          Gintrough - The Complete Idiot26/10/15 15:37:00 Michael Brown
                                                                                             Re:CW4 Village Idiot of the Year26/10/15 16:11:00 Richard Greenhough

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