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Topic: Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Acupuncture on the NHS
Posted by: Larry Stamford
Date/Time: 20/10/15 17:16:00

I have no doubt at all that the placebo effect plays a huge role in any sort of treatment. I'm not sure we can properly devise a means by which to measure the effects or be able to say, most importantly, why it works, but it seems that it does.

Any form of experiment and the results that follow often fail to take into account the role of the observer. I find it difficult to see that we could, as humans having a subjective experience, ever measure anything truly objectively. Quantum physics points this fact out. That the role of the observer plays a huge role in the observation. This is not accounted for with Newtonian physics and is just one of the areas in which the two sciences collide.

On top of this, many experiments are carried out with funding that has been provided in order to prove or disprove something. Therefor the need to fulfill that conclusion is paramount given the possibility of funding being withdrawn.


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Acupuncture on the NHS14/10/15 09:55:00 Larry Stamford
   Re:Acupuncture on the NHS14/10/15 10:07:00 Philippa Bond
      Re:Re:Acupuncture on the NHS14/10/15 10:28:00 Rima Jones
         Re:Re:Re:Acupuncture on the NHS14/10/15 10:33:00 Andy Pease
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Acupuncture on the NHS14/10/15 10:39:00 Larry Stamford
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Acupuncture on the NHS14/10/15 10:55:00 Rima Jones
                  Re:Acupuncture on the NHS14/10/15 12:04:00 John Whitworth
                     Re:Re:Acupuncture on the NHS14/10/15 12:57:00 Rima Jones
                        Re:Acupuncture on the NHS14/10/15 13:34:00 John Whitworth
                           Re:Re:Acupuncture on the NHS14/10/15 15:33:00 Rima Jones
                              Re:Acupuncture on the NHS14/10/15 16:50:00 John Whitworth
                                 Re:Re:Acupuncture on the NHS15/10/15 18:44:00 Rima Jones
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Acupuncture on the NHS14/10/15 11:01:00 Philippa Bond
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Acupuncture on the NHS14/10/15 11:02:00 Philippa Bond
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Acupuncture on the NHS14/10/15 11:30:00 Andy Pease
         Re:Re:Re:Acupuncture on the NHS14/10/15 21:28:00 Philippa Bond
   Re:Acupuncture on the NHS14/10/15 14:41:00 Will Watson
   Re:Acupuncture on the NHS14/10/15 15:53:00 Jonathan Bingham
      Re:Re:Acupuncture on the NHS - Knees - Childbirth & More15/10/15 12:25:00 Philippa Bond
         Re:Re:Re:Acupuncture on the NHS - Knees - Childbirth & More15/10/15 14:24:00 Will Watson
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Acupuncture on the NHS - Knees - Childbirth & More15/10/15 14:56:00 Philippa Bond
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Acupuncture on the NHS - Knees - Childbirth & More15/10/15 15:19:00 Philippa Bond
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Acupuncture on the NHS - Knees - Childbirth & More15/10/15 15:20:00 Philippa Bond
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Acupuncture on the NHS - Knees - Childbirth & More15/10/15 19:40:00 Rima Jones
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Acupuncture on the NHS - Knees - Childbirth & More16/10/15 09:16:00 Larry Stamford
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Acupuncture on the NHS - Knees - Childbirth & More16/10/15 10:14:00 Alastair Banton
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Acupuncture on the NHS - Knees - Childbirth & More16/10/15 10:29:00 Rima Jones
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Acupuncture on the NHS - Knees - Childbirth & More16/10/15 10:31:00 Rima Jones
                        acupuncture16/10/15 10:35:00 Jeffrey Cope
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Acupuncture on the NHS - Knees - Childbirth & More16/10/15 10:45:00 Rima Jones
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Acupuncture on the NHS - Knees - Childbirth & More16/10/15 10:50:00 Paul Wright
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Acupuncture on the NHS - Knees - Childbirth & More16/10/15 10:53:00 Alastair Banton
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Acupuncture on the NHS - Knees - Childbirth & More16/10/15 10:55:00 Paul Wright
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Acupuncture on the NHS - Knees - Childbirth & More16/10/15 10:56:00 Will Watson
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Acupuncture on the NHS - Knees - Childbirth & More16/10/15 12:08:00 Larry Stamford
               Re:Acupuncture on the NHS16/10/15 11:01:00 John Whitworth
                  Re:Re:Acupuncture on the NHS16/10/15 11:45:00 Rima Jones
                     Re:Re:Re:Acupuncture on the NHS16/10/15 12:08:00 Will Watson
                     Re:Re:Re:Acupuncture on the NHS16/10/15 12:34:00 Larry Stamford
                  Re:Re:Acupuncture on the NHS16/10/15 12:29:00 Larry Stamford
                     Re:Re:Re:Acupuncture on the NHS16/10/15 12:54:00 Will Watson
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Acupuncture on the NHS16/10/15 13:05:00 Larry Stamford
                     Re:Re:Re:Acupuncture on the NHS16/10/15 13:02:00 Rima Jones
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Acupuncture on the NHS16/10/15 13:06:00 Rima Jones
                     Re:Re:Re:Acupuncture on the NHS16/10/15 13:07:00 Michael Robinson
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Acupuncture on the NHS16/10/15 13:16:00 Larry Stamford
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Acupuncture on the NHS16/10/15 13:40:00 Michael Robinson
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Acupuncture on the NHS16/10/15 13:51:00 Philippa Bond
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Acupuncture on the NHS16/10/15 15:05:00 Rima Jones
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Acupuncture on the NHS16/10/15 15:15:00 Will Watson
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Acupuncture on the NHS16/10/15 15:23:00 Michael Robinson
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Acupuncture on the NHS16/10/15 16:33:00 Rima Jones
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Acupuncture on the NHS16/10/15 16:38:00 Paul Wright
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Acupuncture on the NHS16/10/15 16:47:00 Michael Robinson
                     Re:Acupuncture on the NHS16/10/15 16:48:00 John Whitworth
                        Re:Re:Acupuncture on the NHS16/10/15 16:55:00 Alastair Banton
                           Re:Re:Re:Acupuncture on the NHS16/10/15 17:00:00 Paul Wright
                              Re:Acupuncture on the NHS16/10/15 17:12:00 John Whitworth
                                 Re:Re:Acupuncture on the NHS16/10/15 17:45:00 Paul Wright
                           Re:Re:Re:Acupuncture on the NHS16/10/15 18:14:00 Jonathan Bingham
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Acupuncture on the NHS16/10/15 18:21:00 Paul Wright
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Acupuncture on the NHS16/10/15 18:56:00 Rima Jones
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Acupuncture on the NHS16/10/15 19:02:00 Michael Brown
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Acupuncture on the NHS16/10/15 19:04:00 Philippa Bond
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Acupuncture on the NHS16/10/15 21:18:00 Rima Jones
   Re:Acupuncture on the NHS20/10/15 01:24:00 Stephen Pett
      Re:Re:Acupuncture on the NHS20/10/15 09:14:00 Alastair Banton
         Re:Re:Re:Acupuncture on the NHS20/10/15 09:20:00 Philippa Bond
         Re:Re:Re:Acupuncture on the NHS20/10/15 09:21:00 Larry Stamford
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Acupuncture on the NHS20/10/15 09:31:00 Alastair Banton
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Acupuncture on the NHS20/10/15 09:42:00 Larry Stamford
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Acupuncture on the NHS20/10/15 10:03:00 Alastair Banton
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Acupuncture on the NHS20/10/15 10:24:00 Larry Stamford
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Acupuncture on the NHS20/10/15 10:39:00 Will Watson
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Acupuncture on the NHS20/10/15 10:42:00 Larry Stamford
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Acupuncture on the NHS20/10/15 10:51:00 Will Watson
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Acupuncture on the NHS20/10/15 11:01:00 Michael Brown
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Acupuncture on the NHS20/10/15 11:20:00 Michael Robinson
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Acupuncture on the NHS20/10/15 11:44:00 bobby osborne
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Acupuncture on the NHS20/10/15 12:07:00 Michael Brown
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Acupuncture on the NHS20/10/15 17:04:00 Larry Stamford
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Acupuncture on the NHS20/10/15 17:51:00 Jonathan Bingham
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Acupuncture on the NHS20/10/15 10:03:00 Philippa Bond
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Acupuncture on the NHS20/10/15 11:38:00 Stuart Kerr
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Acupuncture on the NHS20/10/15 11:42:00 Rima Jones
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Acupuncture on the NHS20/10/15 11:50:00 Stuart Kerr
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Acupuncture on the NHS20/10/15 11:41:00 Michael Brown
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Acupuncture on the NHS20/10/15 12:15:00 Rima Jones
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Acupuncture on the NHS20/10/15 12:23:00 bobby osborne
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Acupuncture on the NHS20/10/15 13:12:00 Rima Jones
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Acupuncture on the NHS20/10/15 12:46:00 Carl Wynne
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Acupuncture on the NHS20/10/15 13:00:00 Stephen Pett
                              BBC Website article: Why are placebos getting more effective?20/10/15 14:45:00 Will Watson
                                 Re:BBC Website article: Why are placebos getting more effective?20/10/15 14:57:00 Michael Brown
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Acupuncture on the NHS20/10/15 17:06:00 Larry Stamford
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Acupuncture on the NHS20/10/15 17:16:00 Larry Stamford
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Acupuncture on the NHS20/10/15 20:26:00 Rima Jones
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Acupuncture on the NHS20/10/15 22:28:00 Michael Robinson
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Acupuncture on the NHS20/10/15 22:42:00 Larry Stamford
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Acupuncture on the NHS20/10/15 22:51:00 Larry Stamford
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Acupuncture on the NHS20/10/15 22:56:00 Larry Stamford
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Acupuncture on the NHS20/10/15 23:03:00 bobby osborne
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Acupuncture on the NHS20/10/15 23:17:00 Rima Jones
                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Acupuncture on the NHS20/10/15 23:34:00 Julian Pavey
                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Acupuncture on the NHS20/10/15 23:56:00 Stephen Pett
                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Acupuncture on the NHS20/10/15 23:58:00 Michael Brown
                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Acupuncture on the NHS21/10/15 08:33:00 Stephen Pett
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Acupuncture on the NHS21/10/15 08:31:00 Michael Robinson
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Acupuncture on the NHS21/10/15 09:04:00 Larry Stamford
                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Acupuncture on the NHS21/10/15 09:07:00 Larry Stamford
                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Acupuncture on the NHS21/10/15 09:11:00 Larry Stamford
                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Acupuncture on the NHS21/10/15 09:14:00 Larry Stamford
                                                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Acupuncture on the NHS21/10/15 09:18:00 Michael Robinson
                                                            Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Acupuncture on the NHS21/10/15 09:25:00 Larry Stamford
                                                               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Acupuncture on the NHS21/10/15 09:37:00 Georgina Flint
                                                                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Acupuncture on the NHS21/10/15 09:48:00 Michael Robinson
                                                                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Acupuncture on the NHS21/10/15 09:54:00 Georgina Flint
                                                               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Acupuncture on the NHS21/10/15 09:40:00 Michael Robinson
                                                                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Acupuncture on the NHS21/10/15 09:55:00 Larry Stamford
                                                                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Acupuncture on the NHS21/10/15 10:53:00 Michael Robinson
                                                                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Acupuncture on the NHS21/10/15 10:59:00 Larry Stamford
                                                                           Re:Acupuncture on the NHS21/10/15 11:31:00 John Whitworth
                                                                              Re:Re:Acupuncture on the NHS21/10/15 12:10:00 bobby osborne
                                                                                 Re:Re:Re:Acupuncture on the NHS21/10/15 12:51:00 Michael Robinson
                                                                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Acupuncture on the NHS21/10/15 11:32:00 Michael Robinson
                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Acupuncture on the NHS21/10/15 09:36:00 Will Watson
                                                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Acupuncture on the NHS21/10/15 09:51:00 Larry Stamford
                                                            Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Acupuncture on the NHS21/10/15 10:37:00 Stephen Pett
                                                            Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Acupuncture on the NHS21/10/15 11:04:00 Will Watson

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