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Topic: Re:Acupuncture on the NHS
Posted by: Will Watson
Date/Time: 14/10/15 14:41:00

I agree with this responder to that article:

Oh dear dansky3 et al. Acupuncture is just little needles stuck randomly into skin. It's no more or less effective than TENS or capsaicin rubbed in. It's a minor adjunct useful to some (usually susceptible individuals). I've been to China and they are building western hospitals and medical schools at a rate of knots. (Ps dansky3 they are unhealthy lot those Chinese, despite their long and venerable trading of made up hocus locus). I've got no problem with people choosing acupuncture or homeopathy or rekki. It means less gullible, whiny, self involved patients with benign self limiting conditions in my waiting room. I object to paying for it with my taxes. At best it's slightly better for a few conditions than placebo. Usually it just wastes patients time and money. Occasionally it delays real treatment and causes harm.


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Acupuncture on the NHS14/10/15 09:55:00 Larry Stamford
   Re:Acupuncture on the NHS14/10/15 10:07:00 Philippa Bond
      Re:Re:Acupuncture on the NHS14/10/15 10:28:00 Rima Jones
         Re:Re:Re:Acupuncture on the NHS14/10/15 10:33:00 Andy Pease
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Acupuncture on the NHS14/10/15 10:39:00 Larry Stamford
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Acupuncture on the NHS14/10/15 10:55:00 Rima Jones
                  Re:Acupuncture on the NHS14/10/15 12:04:00 John Whitworth
                     Re:Re:Acupuncture on the NHS14/10/15 12:57:00 Rima Jones
                        Re:Acupuncture on the NHS14/10/15 13:34:00 John Whitworth
                           Re:Re:Acupuncture on the NHS14/10/15 15:33:00 Rima Jones
                              Re:Acupuncture on the NHS14/10/15 16:50:00 John Whitworth
                                 Re:Re:Acupuncture on the NHS15/10/15 18:44:00 Rima Jones
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Acupuncture on the NHS14/10/15 11:01:00 Philippa Bond
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Acupuncture on the NHS14/10/15 11:02:00 Philippa Bond
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Acupuncture on the NHS14/10/15 11:30:00 Andy Pease
         Re:Re:Re:Acupuncture on the NHS14/10/15 21:28:00 Philippa Bond
   Re:Acupuncture on the NHS14/10/15 14:41:00 Will Watson
   Re:Acupuncture on the NHS14/10/15 15:53:00 Jonathan Bingham
      Re:Re:Acupuncture on the NHS - Knees - Childbirth & More15/10/15 12:25:00 Philippa Bond
         Re:Re:Re:Acupuncture on the NHS - Knees - Childbirth & More15/10/15 14:24:00 Will Watson
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Acupuncture on the NHS - Knees - Childbirth & More15/10/15 14:56:00 Philippa Bond
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Acupuncture on the NHS - Knees - Childbirth & More15/10/15 15:19:00 Philippa Bond
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Acupuncture on the NHS - Knees - Childbirth & More15/10/15 15:20:00 Philippa Bond
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Acupuncture on the NHS - Knees - Childbirth & More15/10/15 19:40:00 Rima Jones
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Acupuncture on the NHS - Knees - Childbirth & More16/10/15 09:16:00 Larry Stamford
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Acupuncture on the NHS - Knees - Childbirth & More16/10/15 10:14:00 Alastair Banton
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Acupuncture on the NHS - Knees - Childbirth & More16/10/15 10:29:00 Rima Jones
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Acupuncture on the NHS - Knees - Childbirth & More16/10/15 10:31:00 Rima Jones
                        acupuncture16/10/15 10:35:00 Jeffrey Cope
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Acupuncture on the NHS - Knees - Childbirth & More16/10/15 10:45:00 Rima Jones
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Acupuncture on the NHS - Knees - Childbirth & More16/10/15 10:50:00 Paul Wright
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Acupuncture on the NHS - Knees - Childbirth & More16/10/15 10:53:00 Alastair Banton
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Acupuncture on the NHS - Knees - Childbirth & More16/10/15 10:55:00 Paul Wright
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Acupuncture on the NHS - Knees - Childbirth & More16/10/15 10:56:00 Will Watson
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Acupuncture on the NHS - Knees - Childbirth & More16/10/15 12:08:00 Larry Stamford
               Re:Acupuncture on the NHS16/10/15 11:01:00 John Whitworth
                  Re:Re:Acupuncture on the NHS16/10/15 11:45:00 Rima Jones
                     Re:Re:Re:Acupuncture on the NHS16/10/15 12:08:00 Will Watson
                     Re:Re:Re:Acupuncture on the NHS16/10/15 12:34:00 Larry Stamford
                  Re:Re:Acupuncture on the NHS16/10/15 12:29:00 Larry Stamford
                     Re:Re:Re:Acupuncture on the NHS16/10/15 12:54:00 Will Watson
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Acupuncture on the NHS16/10/15 13:05:00 Larry Stamford
                     Re:Re:Re:Acupuncture on the NHS16/10/15 13:02:00 Rima Jones
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Acupuncture on the NHS16/10/15 13:06:00 Rima Jones
                     Re:Re:Re:Acupuncture on the NHS16/10/15 13:07:00 Michael Robinson
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Acupuncture on the NHS16/10/15 13:16:00 Larry Stamford
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Acupuncture on the NHS16/10/15 13:40:00 Michael Robinson
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Acupuncture on the NHS16/10/15 13:51:00 Philippa Bond
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Acupuncture on the NHS16/10/15 15:05:00 Rima Jones
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Acupuncture on the NHS16/10/15 15:15:00 Will Watson
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Acupuncture on the NHS16/10/15 15:23:00 Michael Robinson
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Acupuncture on the NHS16/10/15 16:33:00 Rima Jones
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Acupuncture on the NHS16/10/15 16:38:00 Paul Wright
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Acupuncture on the NHS16/10/15 16:47:00 Michael Robinson
                     Re:Acupuncture on the NHS16/10/15 16:48:00 John Whitworth
                        Re:Re:Acupuncture on the NHS16/10/15 16:55:00 Alastair Banton
                           Re:Re:Re:Acupuncture on the NHS16/10/15 17:00:00 Paul Wright
                              Re:Acupuncture on the NHS16/10/15 17:12:00 John Whitworth
                                 Re:Re:Acupuncture on the NHS16/10/15 17:45:00 Paul Wright
                           Re:Re:Re:Acupuncture on the NHS16/10/15 18:14:00 Jonathan Bingham
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Acupuncture on the NHS16/10/15 18:21:00 Paul Wright
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Acupuncture on the NHS16/10/15 18:56:00 Rima Jones
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Acupuncture on the NHS16/10/15 19:02:00 Michael Brown
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Acupuncture on the NHS16/10/15 19:04:00 Philippa Bond
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Acupuncture on the NHS16/10/15 21:18:00 Rima Jones
   Re:Acupuncture on the NHS20/10/15 01:24:00 Stephen Pett
      Re:Re:Acupuncture on the NHS20/10/15 09:14:00 Alastair Banton
         Re:Re:Re:Acupuncture on the NHS20/10/15 09:20:00 Philippa Bond
         Re:Re:Re:Acupuncture on the NHS20/10/15 09:21:00 Larry Stamford
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Acupuncture on the NHS20/10/15 09:31:00 Alastair Banton
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Acupuncture on the NHS20/10/15 09:42:00 Larry Stamford
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Acupuncture on the NHS20/10/15 10:03:00 Alastair Banton
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Acupuncture on the NHS20/10/15 10:24:00 Larry Stamford
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Acupuncture on the NHS20/10/15 10:39:00 Will Watson
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Acupuncture on the NHS20/10/15 10:42:00 Larry Stamford
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Acupuncture on the NHS20/10/15 10:51:00 Will Watson
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Acupuncture on the NHS20/10/15 11:01:00 Michael Brown
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Acupuncture on the NHS20/10/15 11:20:00 Michael Robinson
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Acupuncture on the NHS20/10/15 11:44:00 bobby osborne
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Acupuncture on the NHS20/10/15 12:07:00 Michael Brown
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Acupuncture on the NHS20/10/15 17:04:00 Larry Stamford
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Acupuncture on the NHS20/10/15 17:51:00 Jonathan Bingham
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Acupuncture on the NHS20/10/15 10:03:00 Philippa Bond
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Acupuncture on the NHS20/10/15 11:38:00 Stuart Kerr
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Acupuncture on the NHS20/10/15 11:42:00 Rima Jones
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Acupuncture on the NHS20/10/15 11:50:00 Stuart Kerr
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Acupuncture on the NHS20/10/15 11:41:00 Michael Brown
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Acupuncture on the NHS20/10/15 12:15:00 Rima Jones
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Acupuncture on the NHS20/10/15 12:23:00 bobby osborne
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Acupuncture on the NHS20/10/15 13:12:00 Rima Jones
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Acupuncture on the NHS20/10/15 12:46:00 Carl Wynne
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Acupuncture on the NHS20/10/15 13:00:00 Stephen Pett
                              BBC Website article: Why are placebos getting more effective?20/10/15 14:45:00 Will Watson
                                 Re:BBC Website article: Why are placebos getting more effective?20/10/15 14:57:00 Michael Brown
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Acupuncture on the NHS20/10/15 17:06:00 Larry Stamford
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Acupuncture on the NHS20/10/15 17:16:00 Larry Stamford
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Acupuncture on the NHS20/10/15 20:26:00 Rima Jones
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Acupuncture on the NHS20/10/15 22:28:00 Michael Robinson
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Acupuncture on the NHS20/10/15 22:42:00 Larry Stamford
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Acupuncture on the NHS20/10/15 22:51:00 Larry Stamford
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Acupuncture on the NHS20/10/15 22:56:00 Larry Stamford
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Acupuncture on the NHS20/10/15 23:03:00 bobby osborne
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Acupuncture on the NHS20/10/15 23:17:00 Rima Jones
                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Acupuncture on the NHS20/10/15 23:34:00 Julian Pavey
                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Acupuncture on the NHS20/10/15 23:56:00 Stephen Pett
                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Acupuncture on the NHS20/10/15 23:58:00 Michael Brown
                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Acupuncture on the NHS21/10/15 08:33:00 Stephen Pett
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Acupuncture on the NHS21/10/15 08:31:00 Michael Robinson
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Acupuncture on the NHS21/10/15 09:04:00 Larry Stamford
                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Acupuncture on the NHS21/10/15 09:07:00 Larry Stamford
                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Acupuncture on the NHS21/10/15 09:11:00 Larry Stamford
                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Acupuncture on the NHS21/10/15 09:14:00 Larry Stamford
                                                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Acupuncture on the NHS21/10/15 09:18:00 Michael Robinson
                                                            Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Acupuncture on the NHS21/10/15 09:25:00 Larry Stamford
                                                               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Acupuncture on the NHS21/10/15 09:37:00 Georgina Flint
                                                                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Acupuncture on the NHS21/10/15 09:48:00 Michael Robinson
                                                                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Acupuncture on the NHS21/10/15 09:54:00 Georgina Flint
                                                               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Acupuncture on the NHS21/10/15 09:40:00 Michael Robinson
                                                                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Acupuncture on the NHS21/10/15 09:55:00 Larry Stamford
                                                                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Acupuncture on the NHS21/10/15 10:53:00 Michael Robinson
                                                                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Acupuncture on the NHS21/10/15 10:59:00 Larry Stamford
                                                                           Re:Acupuncture on the NHS21/10/15 11:31:00 John Whitworth
                                                                              Re:Re:Acupuncture on the NHS21/10/15 12:10:00 bobby osborne
                                                                                 Re:Re:Re:Acupuncture on the NHS21/10/15 12:51:00 Michael Robinson
                                                                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Acupuncture on the NHS21/10/15 11:32:00 Michael Robinson
                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Acupuncture on the NHS21/10/15 09:36:00 Will Watson
                                                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Acupuncture on the NHS21/10/15 09:51:00 Larry Stamford
                                                            Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Acupuncture on the NHS21/10/15 10:37:00 Stephen Pett
                                                            Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Acupuncture on the NHS21/10/15 11:04:00 Will Watson

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