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Topic: Re:Re:Re:Re:New Low Reached By Dodgy Developers?
Posted by: Paul Corcoran
Date/Time: 13/10/15 14:48:00

Sam Hearn wrote, 'A planning application emerges from this process and the Developer claims, that for better or worse, they have taken into account input from both the public and the Planning Department.

'Only when there is a formal application on the table can the real discussions begin.'

Is it not the case that in recent years the pre-application discussions have become the arena in which the real decision is made? This is because it is unlikely that an application would be made after such discussions which was not both compliant with planning law and endorsed by the borough's planners. Therefore local residents groups can huff and puff all they want but no material changes are going to be made to the application,

It seems to be both wrong and profoundly undemocratic for anyone to claim that you as a local councillor should be excluded from at least knowing the broad scope of these discussions on the basis of 'client confidentiality'. The current arrangements may be tidier and less time consuming but the scope for corruption has increased significantly.

We've seen with Empire House that a challenge even from a well-resourced group of residents is quixotic once the developer and the planning authority have agreed. This process needs much more transparency not less and I am surprised to see councillors past and present arguing against this.


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New Low Reached By Dodgy Developers?09/10/15 14:57:00 Dan Evans
   Re:New Low Reached By Dodgy Developers?09/10/15 15:00:00 Claire Moran
   Re:New Low Reached By Dodgy Developers?09/10/15 15:27:00 Richard Greenhough
      Re:Re:New Low Reached By Dodgy Developers?09/10/15 15:30:00 Viv Griffiths
         Re:Re:Re:New Low Reached By Dodgy Developers?09/10/15 23:05:00 James Weatherley
   Re:New Low Reached By Dodgy Developers?09/10/15 15:55:00 Alison Neary
   Re:New Low Reached By Dodgy Developers?09/10/15 16:10:00 Sandie Goodman
      Re:Re:New Low Reached By Dodgy Developers?09/10/15 16:42:00 Gail Busza
         Re:Re:Re:New Low Reached By Dodgy Developers?09/10/15 17:15:00 andy pease
            Re:Re:Re:Re:New Low Reached By Dodgy Developers?10/10/15 01:55:00 Jim Lawes
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:New Low Reached By Dodgy Developers?10/10/15 17:01:00 Paul Pryce
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:New Low Reached By Dodgy Developers?11/10/15 06:50:00 Guy Lambert
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:New Low Reached By Dodgy Developers?11/10/15 08:12:00 Kevin Howard
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:New Low Reached By Dodgy Developers?11/10/15 11:24:00 Guy Lambert
   Re:New Low Reached By Dodgy Developers?11/10/15 16:21:00 Charles Lawrence
      Re:Re:New Low Reached By Dodgy Developers?11/10/15 16:29:00 Jim Lawes
         Re:Re:Re:New Low Reached By Dodgy Developers?11/10/15 17:37:00 Guy Lambert
            Re:Re:Re:Re:New Low Reached By Dodgy Developers?11/10/15 22:26:00 Paul Corcoran
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:New Low Reached By Dodgy Developers?11/10/15 23:18:00 Guy Lambert
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:New Low Reached By Dodgy Developers?12/10/15 08:38:00 Dan Evans
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:New Low Reached By Dodgy Developers?12/10/15 09:20:00 Adam Beamish
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:New Low Reached By Dodgy Developers?12/10/15 10:11:00 Anita Blake
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:New Low Reached By Dodgy Developers?12/10/15 09:27:00 Guy Lambert
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:New Low Reached By Dodgy Developers?12/10/15 09:37:00 Viv Griffiths
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:New Low Reached By Dodgy Developers?12/10/15 10:08:00 Dan Evans
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:New Low Reached By Dodgy Developers?12/10/15 10:38:00 Richard Greenhough
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:New Low Reached By Dodgy Developers?12/10/15 09:38:00 Richard Greenhough
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:New Low Reached By Dodgy Developers?12/10/15 10:23:00 Guy Lambert
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:New Low Reached By Dodgy Developers?12/10/15 10:30:00 Paul Corcoran
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:New Low Reached By Dodgy Developers?12/10/15 11:11:00 John Connelly
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:New Low Reached By Dodgy Developers?12/10/15 11:21:00 Richard Greenhough
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:New Low Reached By Dodgy Developers?12/10/15 11:26:00 John Connelly
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:New Low Reached By Dodgy Developers?12/10/15 11:41:00 Paul Corcoran
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:New Low Reached By Dodgy Developers?12/10/15 12:17:00 John Connelly
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:New Low Reached By Dodgy Developers?12/10/15 13:03:00 Kevin Howard
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:New Low Reached By Dodgy Developers?12/10/15 16:59:00 Paul Corcoran
   Re:New Low Reached By Dodgy Developers?12/10/15 13:35:00 Lou Valdini
      Re:Re:New Low Reached By Dodgy Developers?12/10/15 17:45:00 Cllr Sam Hearn
         Re:Re:Re:New Low Reached By Dodgy Developers?12/10/15 17:54:00 John Connelly
            Re:Re:Re:Re:New Low Reached By Dodgy Developers?12/10/15 20:55:00 Francis Rowe
   Re:New Low Reached By Dodgy Developers?12/10/15 18:18:00 Stephan Deare-Bilham
      Re:Re:New Low Reached By Dodgy Developers?12/10/15 21:06:00 Dan Evans
         Re:Re:Re:New Low Reached By Dodgy Developers?12/10/15 21:07:00 Dan Evans
            Re:Re:Re:Re:New Low Reached By Dodgy Developers?13/10/15 14:48:00 Paul Corcoran
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:New Low Reached By Dodgy Developers?13/10/15 16:34:00 Adam Beamish
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:New Low Reached By Dodgy Developers?13/10/15 17:20:00 Carl Wynne
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:New Low Reached By Dodgy Developers?13/10/15 20:10:00 Viv Griffiths
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:New Low Reached By Dodgy Developers?14/10/15 08:14:00 Kevin Howard
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:New Low Reached By Dodgy Developers?14/10/15 08:41:00 Paul Corcoran
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:New Low Reached By Dodgy Developers?14/10/15 14:15:00 Anita Blake
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:New Low Reached By Dodgy Developers?14/10/15 14:56:00 Michael Robinson
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:New Low Reached By Dodgy Developers?14/10/15 22:42:00 Alex Thomas
                                       Bad Feng Shui?15/10/15 22:43:00 Paul Pryce
                                          Re:Bad Feng Shui?16/10/15 00:02:00 Alex Thomas
   Empire House all over again22/10/15 09:43:00 Paul Corcoran

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