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Topic: Re:Re:Re: passing thoughts..
Posted by: Dan Murphy
Date/Time: 19/08/15 12:04:00

Thank you Stuart, you have outlined the position quite elegantly.

I thoroughly resent being called a dog-hater (and much, much worse, over the last few years) whenever I post an opinion that doesn't agree with the fanatical cat and dog lovers here, who believe that we should all see their pets as equivalent to our own children and adore them just as much (one of their number actually boasts about sleeping with her animals, which I find really quite disturbing).

Or if we disagree with them in their views that their cats and dogs are every bit as intelligent and emotionally sentient as humans ("naturally my little man felt nervous, and so understandably lashed out"), and that we should respect and consider every dog's emotional fragility before we step into a park or other public space.

I have lived in the country here in the UK (Leicestershire), and my mother lives deep in agricultural farming country in the south of Ireland, with dairy farmers as next door neighbours. These people really do exhibit extraordinary care for their animals, they are up in the middle of the night when a calf is born and all the rest of it. Their dedication to their animals is quite inspiring. But they also have two dogs, very healthy and well fed and looked after, but the idea that they would ever enter the house, or eat or sleep indoors would be met with utter hilarity. Unthinkable. They sleep in a kennel outside, like every other dog in that part of the country, and they have a fantastic life. And by the way, I always look forward to seeing them when I visit, they are the most wonderful dogs to spend time with (but of course, I am a Nazi dog hater, aren't I?)

I'd like to see our fanatical softie town-living "animal lovers" try to persuade those lovely people that they are simply the modern day equivalent of slave owners, and they are damaging their dogs' emotional well being by forcing them to sleep outside in the cold. They would be politely shown the door and told to go back to their London flat and their comfortable city life. And the dogs would be told to chase them off the property.

There was a frantic kerfuffle here recently when someone suspected that a dog was being forced to stay overnight in a car, of all things. On the street, if you please. The police were called for, night time stake-outs with fires and pitch forks. Naming and shaming was demanded. One might have thought that several dead bodies had been discovered in a back garden, so incandescent was the reaction of our perpetually livid townie animal lovers.

They really do have absolutely no idea.


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Bulls kill seven at Spain summer festivals17/08/15 18:36:00 Brian Coyle
   Re:Bulls kill seven at Spain summer festivals17/08/15 18:46:00 Claire Moran
      Re:Re:Bulls kill seven at Spain summer festivals17/08/15 20:33:00 Dan Murphy
         Re:Re:Re:Bulls kill seven at Spain summer festivals17/08/15 20:40:00 Loraine Pemberton
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Bulls kill seven at Spain summer festivals17/08/15 20:43:00 Claire Moran
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Bulls kill seven at Spain summer festivals17/08/15 21:01:00 Keith Iddon
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Bulls kill seven at Spain summer festivals17/08/15 21:05:00 Brian Coyle
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Bulls kill seven at Spain summer festivals17/08/15 21:11:00 Claire Moran
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Bulls kill seven at Spain summer festivals17/08/15 22:49:00 Richard Jennings
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Bulls kill seven at Spain summer festivals17/08/15 22:54:00 Lynne Bruce
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Bulls kill seven at Spain summer festivals18/08/15 01:07:00 David Marles
         Re:Re:Re:Bulls kill seven at Spain summer festivals18/08/15 04:56:00 Richard Greenhough
   Re:Bulls kill seven at Spain summer festivals18/08/15 09:10:00 Alison Neary
      Re:Re:Bulls kill seven at Spain summer festivals18/08/15 10:16:00 Felicity Caborn
         Re:Re:Re:Bulls kill seven at Spain summer festivals18/08/15 10:43:00 Colin Jordan
         Re:Re:Re:Bulls kill seven at Spain summer festivals18/08/15 10:44:00 Loraine Pemberton
         Re:Re:Re:Bulls kill seven at Spain summer festivals18/08/15 10:45:00 Dan Murphy
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Bulls kill seven at Spain summer festivals18/08/15 10:55:00 Loraine Pemberton
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Bulls kill seven at Spain summer festivals18/08/15 11:00:00 Claire Moran
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Bulls kill seven at Spain summer festivals18/08/15 10:58:00 Richard Greenhough
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Bulls kill seven at Spain summer festivals18/08/15 11:10:00 Gordon McDonald
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Bulls kill seven at Spain summer festivals18/08/15 11:12:00 Dan Murphy
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Bulls kill seven at Spain summer festivals18/08/15 11:17:00 Claire Moran
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Bulls kill seven at Spain summer festivals18/08/15 11:59:00 Nick Mason
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Bulls kill seven at Spain summer festivals18/08/15 12:02:00 bobby osborne
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Bulls kill seven at Spain summer festivals18/08/15 12:59:00 Claire Moran
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Bulls kill seven at Spain summer festivals18/08/15 13:22:00 Nick Mason
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Bulls kill seven at Spain summer festivals18/08/15 13:10:00 Keith Iddon
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Bulls kill seven at Spain summer festivals18/08/15 12:39:00 Richard Greenhough
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Bulls kill seven at Spain summer festivals18/08/15 13:02:00 Claire Moran
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Bulls kill seven at Spain summer festivals18/08/15 13:09:00 bobby osborne
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Bulls kill seven at Spain summer festivals18/08/15 13:12:00 Keith Iddon
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Bulls kill seven at Spain summer festivals18/08/15 13:04:00 Claire Moran
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Bulls kill seven at Spain summer festivals18/08/15 13:05:00 Alison Neary
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Bulls kill seven at Spain summer festivals18/08/15 15:08:00 Richard Greenhough
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Bulls kill seven at Spain summer festivals18/08/15 13:36:00 Dan Murphy
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Bulls kill seven at Spain summer festivals18/08/15 13:52:00 Carl Wynne
                           Gintrough Spews18/08/15 13:55:00 Michael Brown
                              Re:Mr Bean spews.....yawn AGAIN 18/08/15 14:21:00 Loraine Pemberton
                              MCB witters18/08/15 14:22:00 Richard Greenhough
                                 Pemberton arguably as useless as the Brigadier18/08/15 14:28:00 Michael Brown
                                    Re: MCB's witterings18/08/15 14:39:00 Richard Greenhough
                           Re: Bullrunning and Bullfoights kill 10,000 bulls every year *18/08/15 14:16:00 Loraine Pemberton
                              Re:Re: Bullrunning and Bullfoights kill 10,000 bulls every year *18/08/15 14:31:00 Paul Corcoran
                                 Re:Re:Re: Bullrunning and Bullfoights kill 10,000 bulls every year *18/08/15 15:15:00 Loraine Pemberton
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re: Bullrunning and Bullfoights kill 10,000 bulls every year *18/08/15 15:25:00 Dan Murphy
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Bullrunning and Bullfoights kill 10,000 bulls every year *18/08/15 15:36:00 Loraine Pemberton
                              Re:Re: Bullrunning and Bullfoights kill 10,000 bulls every year *18/08/15 14:46:00 Dan Murphy
                                 Re:Re:Re: Bullrunning and Bullfoights kill 10,000 bulls every year *18/08/15 14:47:00 Dan Murphy
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re: Bullrunning and Bullfoights kill 10,000 bulls every year *18/08/15 15:13:00 Michael Brown
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re: Bullrunning and Bullfoights kill 10,000 bulls every year *18/08/15 15:25:00 Loraine Pemberton
                                 Re:Re:Re: Bullrunning and Bullfoights kill 10,000 bulls every year *18/08/15 15:22:00 Loraine Pemberton
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re: Bullrunning and Bullfoights kill 10,000 bulls every year *18/08/15 15:30:00 Dan Murphy
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Bullrunning and Bullfoights kill 10,000 bulls every year *18/08/15 15:40:00 Loraine Pemberton
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re: Bullrunning and Bullfoights kill 10,000 bulls every year *18/08/15 15:43:00 Carl Wynne
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Bullrunning and Bullfights kill 10,000 bulls every year *18/08/15 15:46:00 Richard Greenhough
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Bullrunning and Bullfights kill 10,000 bulls every year *18/08/15 15:50:00 Dan Murphy
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Bullrunning and Bullfights kill 10,000 bulls every year *18/08/15 15:59:00 Loraine Pemberton
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Bullrunning and Bullfights kill 10,000 bulls every year *18/08/15 16:02:00 Loraine Pemberton
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Bullrunning and Bullfights kill 10,000 bulls every year *18/08/15 16:31:00 Dan Murphy
                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Bullrunning and Bullfights kill 10,000 bulls every year *18/08/15 18:02:00 Loraine Pemberton
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Bullrunning and Bullfoights kill 10,000 bulls every year *18/08/15 15:53:00 Loraine Pemberton
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Bullrunning and Bullfoights kill 10,000 bulls every year *18/08/15 16:10:00 Adrian Irving
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Bullrunning and Bullfoights kill 10,000 bulls every year *18/08/15 16:29:00 Loraine Pemberton
                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Bullrunning and Bullfoights kill 10,000 bulls every year *18/08/15 16:42:00 Adrian Irving
                                                   Re: Tommy the Toreador18/08/15 16:57:00 Loraine Pemberton
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Bullrunning and Bullfoights kill 10,000 bulls every year *18/08/15 17:47:00 Carl Wynne
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Bullrunning and Bullfoights kill 10,000 bulls every year *18/08/15 18:07:00 Loraine Pemberton
                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Bullrunning and Bullfoights kill 10,000 bulls every year *18/08/15 18:11:00 Carl Wynne
                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Bullrunning and Bullfoights kill 10,000 bulls every year *18/08/15 18:33:00 Loraine Pemberton
                                                      Re: passing thoughts..19/08/15 10:31:00 Stuart Kerr
                                                         Re:Re: passing thoughts..19/08/15 11:28:00 bobby osborne
                                                            Re:Re:Re: passing thoughts..19/08/15 11:40:00 Stuart Kerr
                                                         Re:Re: passing thoughts..19/08/15 11:43:00 Anna Beck
                                                            Re:Re:Re: passing thoughts..19/08/15 12:04:00 Dan Murphy
                                                               Re:Re:Re:Re: passing thoughts..19/08/15 12:14:00 Richard Greenhough
                                                         Re:Re: passing thoughts..19/08/15 11:58:00 Keith Iddon
                                                         Re:Re: passing thoughts..19/08/15 12:03:00 Robert Fish
                                                            Re:Re:Re: passing thoughts..19/08/15 12:07:00 Dan Murphy
                                                            Re:Re:Re: passing thoughts..19/08/15 12:08:00 Stuart Kerr
                                                               Re:Re:Re:Re: passing thoughts..19/08/15 12:13:00 bobby osborne
                                                                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: passing thoughts..19/08/15 12:30:00 Keith Iddon
                                                                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: passing thoughts..19/08/15 12:36:00 Will Watson
                                                                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: passing thoughts..19/08/15 12:40:00 Dan Murphy
                                                                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: passing thoughts..19/08/15 12:43:00 Keith Iddon
                                                                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: passing thoughts..19/08/15 13:01:00 Carl Wynne
                                                                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: passing thoughts..19/08/15 13:21:00 Huw Burford-Taylor
                                                                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: passing thoughts..19/08/15 13:08:00 Richard Greenhough
                                                                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: passing thoughts..19/08/15 13:39:00 Stuart Kerr

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