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Topic: Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Another cyclist loses their life.
Posted by: James Robinson
Date/Time: 23/06/15 09:21:00

Hi Will.

I agree there can be a change in strategy. Like I said loading vehicles have to come into the city but it can be outside certain hours. How much help this will be I don't know as people are cycling all day the false sense of security comes into play again if you are cycling in the peak and think you don't have to worry as much. You do!

You are right that the accidents are more people coming up the inside lane and that is exactly what I was saying. Don't do it. You are asking for trouble.

Even at advanced stop lines you have to be careful as if a lorry is at the stop line and you are at the back of the ASL then he can't see down to where you are. The advanced stop lines are being increased now from 5m to 7.5m as a new standard so that will help but if more people start cycling as is the hope then that too will fill up.

Also the gates (dotted line) into these facilities are not going to be the norm anymore as in encourages the cyclist to go up the left. Its much better not to rely on that and take a primary position on approach to a junction where the traffic conditions suit.

I just hope people see a pattern with these deaths and are wary when they see a large vehicle. Most of the conflicts can really be avoided with just a bit of care.

"I am a cyclist and I am the vulnerable road user" has to be the default mentality.

We want more people to get on their bikes and the percentage of deaths, whilst one being too high, is very small. It is safe to cycle in this city where there are more than 600,000 cycle trips every day but just like crossing the road or driving a care you have to do it by making the correct decisions.

With all the new segregation coming in I just hope there is a big push on education to compliment it. I would like to see a hard hitting tv campaign like the ones we have seen in the past with the guy on the motorbike ploughing into a car pulling out from a side road or one of young kids being run over.


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Another cyclist loses their life.22/06/15 18:22:00 Andy Pease
   Re:Another cyclist loses their life.22/06/15 18:25:00 Claire Moran
   Re:Another cyclist loses their life.22/06/15 18:56:00 Philippa Bond
      Re:Re:Another cyclist loses their life.22/06/15 19:19:00 Michael Robinson
         Re:Re:Re:Another cyclist loses their life.23/06/15 08:25:00 James Robinson
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Another cyclist loses their life.23/06/15 08:49:00 Will Watson
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Another cyclist loses their life.23/06/15 09:21:00 James Robinson
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Another cyclist loses their life.23/06/15 09:40:00 Michael Robinson
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Another cyclist loses their life.23/06/15 10:10:00 James Robinson
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Another cyclist loses their life.23/06/15 10:41:00 Michael Robinson
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Another cyclist loses their life.23/06/15 11:12:00 James Robinson
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Another cyclist loses their life.23/06/15 11:34:00 Michael Robinson
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Another cyclist loses their life.23/06/15 14:43:00 James Robinson
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Another cyclist loses their life.23/06/15 18:02:00 Michael Robinson
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Another cyclist loses their life.23/06/15 22:56:00 James Robinson
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Another cyclist loses their life.23/06/15 09:00:00 Michael Robinson
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Another cyclist loses their life.23/06/15 09:59:00 Andy Rooney
   Re:Another cyclist loses their life.22/06/15 19:14:00 James Doggett
      Re:Re:Another cyclist loses their life.22/06/15 19:29:00 Jill Merrett
         Re:Re:Re:Another cyclist loses their life.23/06/15 08:35:00 Colin Jordan
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Another cyclist loses their life.23/06/15 10:07:00 Adrian Irving
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Another cyclist loses their life.23/06/15 11:46:00 Will Watson
   Re:Another cyclist loses their life.23/06/15 10:35:00 Jonathan Bingham
      Re:Re:Another cyclist loses their life.23/06/15 13:06:00 Andy Pease
         Re:Re:Re:Another cyclist loses their life.23/06/15 13:35:00 Michael Robinson
   Re:Another cyclist loses their life.23/06/15 12:54:00 Ed Yelland
      Re:Re:Another cyclist loses their life.23/06/15 13:23:00 James Robinson
         Re:Re:Re:Another cyclist loses their life.23/06/15 13:39:00 Andy Pease
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Another cyclist loses their life.23/06/15 14:00:00 Adrian Irving
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Another cyclist loses their life.23/06/15 14:19:00 Jonathan Bingham
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Another cyclist loses their life.23/06/15 14:30:00 Arnold Saxton
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Another cyclist loses their life.23/06/15 14:44:00 Michael Robinson
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Another cyclist loses their life.23/06/15 14:34:00 Michael Robinson
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Another cyclist loses their life.23/06/15 14:45:00 James Robinson
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                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Another cyclist loses their life.24/06/15 08:17:00 James Robinson
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Another cyclist loses their life.24/06/15 08:52:00 Michael Robinson
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Another cyclist loses their life.24/06/15 09:20:00 James Robinson
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Another cyclist loses their life.24/06/15 09:56:00 Jonathan Bingham
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Another cyclist loses their life.24/06/15 10:24:00 Will Watson
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Another cyclist loses their life.24/06/15 10:41:00 James Robinson
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Another cyclist loses their life.24/06/15 11:06:00 Will Watson
                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Another cyclist loses their life.24/06/15 11:31:00 James Robinson
                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Another cyclist loses their life.24/06/15 11:42:00 James Robinson
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Another cyclist loses their life.24/06/15 11:06:00 Michael Robinson
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Another cyclist loses their life.24/06/15 10:31:00 Michael Robinson
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                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Another cyclist loses their life.24/06/15 15:42:00 Will Watson
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                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Another cyclist loses their life.24/06/15 17:07:00 Michael Robinson
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Another cyclist loses their life.24/06/15 17:00:00 Michael Robinson
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                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Another cyclist loses their life.24/06/15 17:14:00 Michael Robinson
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                                                                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Another cyclist loses their life.24/06/15 18:07:00 Andy Brown
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