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Topic: Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Commuter Parking
Posted by: Dan Murphy
Date/Time: 02/02/15 12:08:00

David, I am not missing any point. The previous council policy of not putting CPZ into one or two roads is a distraction if you are now talking about Councillor Mayne's behaviour. Let's be clear about what he did:

1. In 2011, he received several emails from Chiswick House Trustees in regard to the proposed car park charges. Those emails (sent by the CHGT Chair, Sarah Finch-Crisp) contained research into cars parked in the car park and surrounding roads, and stated explicitly and clearly: "There can be no possible displacement of cars from the car park into Park or Staveley Road. You must not conflate these two issues, they are completely separate. You must not use the charging in the car park as an excuse for introducing CPZ into those two roads".

Those emails were sent to Councillor Mayne in late 2011 and we have copies of them from an FOI.

In January 2013 when Councillor Mayne was asked at the public meeting how on earth he had concluded that there would be "massive displacement of commuter cars" from the Car Park into Park Road, he stated (you can still read it on the LBH website from the minutes of the January 13th 2013 meeting) "Chiswick House have carried out research into the cars in the car park and that research shows quite clearly the potential for displacement into neighbouring roads".

Notice the difference between that, and what they actually said?

There are words to describe Councillor Mayne's behaviour in making that statement in a public meeting. Honesty, integrity, democracy, transparency, ethical - none of these words are on that list.

So please don't blow smoke at me and everyone else, trying to make out that Councillor Mayne was "only following others". No he most certainly wasn't. His unprecedented single member decision to overrule our unanimous CAF decision on CPZ had never been done before. It was a decision taken by him alone, and based on an unproven theory which we now know to have been a total lie.

Everyone knows what happened here now. You can't get away with wheeling out the old "poor Councillor Mayne was just following established process". It was a shocking breach of all established process and you jolly well know it.

Why don't you just accept the fact that you and your small group of neighbours have got what you always wanted, and can now sit back whilst everyone else spends the next two years trying to deal with the consequences.

Why are you still trying to convince everyone that it was all above board?


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Will Chiswick Councillors help Elmwood Road residents or kick their problem into the long grass? 26/01/15 13:15:00 David Chivers
   Re:Will Chiswick Councillors help Elmwood Road residents or kick their problem into the long grass? 26/01/15 13:19:00 Claire Moran
      Re:Re:Will Chiswick Councillors help Elmwood Road residents or kick their problem into the long grass? 26/01/15 13:21:00 Richard Greenhough
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   Re:Will Chiswick Councillors help Elmwood Road residents or kick their problem into the long grass? 26/01/15 13:23:00 Richard Greenhough
      Re:Re:Will Chiswick Councillors help Elmwood Road residents or kick their problem into the long grass? 26/01/15 14:29:00 David Chivers
         Re:Re:Re:Will Chiswick Councillors help Elmwood Road residents or kick their problem into the long grass? 26/01/15 15:02:00 Andrew Jones
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Will Chiswick Councillors help Elmwood Road residents or kick their problem into the long grass? 26/01/15 15:25:00 David Chivers
         Re:Re:Re:Will Chiswick Councillors help Elmwood Road residents or kick their problem into the long grass? 26/01/15 17:03:00 Richard Greenhough
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Will Chiswick Councillors help Elmwood Road residents or kick their problem into the long grass? 27/01/15 07:52:00 James Holmes-Siedle
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Will Chiswick Councillors help Elmwood Road residents or kick their problem into the long grass? 27/01/15 08:15:00 Colin Jordan
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Will Chiswick Councillors help Elmwood Road residents or kick their problem into the long grass? 27/01/15 08:19:00 Thomas Barry
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Will Chiswick Councillors help Elmwood Road residents or kick their problem into the long grass? 27/01/15 08:24:00 James Holmes-Siedle
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Will Chiswick Councillors help Elmwood Road residents or kick their problem into the long grass? 27/01/15 08:27:00 Brendan McCarthy
                  Alternatives to CPZ27/01/15 09:41:00 Thomas Barry
                     Re:Alternatives to CPZ27/01/15 11:10:00 Richard Greenhough
                        Re:Re:Alternatives to CPZ27/01/15 11:22:00 Brendan McCarthy
   Re:Will Chiswick Councillors help Elmwood Road residents or kick their problem into the long grass? 27/01/15 08:23:00 Sean Wales
      Re:Re:Will Chiswick Councillors help Elmwood Road residents or kick their problem into the long grass? 27/01/15 09:00:00 Madeleine Hazard
         Re:Re:Re:Will Chiswick Councillors help Elmwood Road residents or kick their problem into the long grass? 27/01/15 11:28:00 Sean Wales
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Will Chiswick Councillors help Elmwood Road residents or kick their problem into the long grass? 27/01/15 11:53:00 David Chivers
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Will Chiswick Councillors help Elmwood Road residents or kick their problem into the long grass? 27/01/15 12:09:00 Colin Jordan
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Will Chiswick Councillors help Elmwood Road residents or kick their problem into the long grass? 27/01/15 12:38:00 Thomas Barry
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Will Chiswick Councillors help Elmwood Road residents or kick their problem into the long grass? 27/01/15 13:06:00 Richard Greenhough
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Will Chiswick Councillors help Elmwood Road residents or kick their problem into the long grass? 27/01/15 14:04:00 Dan Murphy
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Will Chiswick Councillors help Elmwood Road residents or kick their problem into the long grass? 27/01/15 15:03:00 David Chivers
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Will Chiswick Councillors help Elmwood Road residents or kick their problem into the long grass? 27/01/15 15:24:00 Richard Greenhough
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Will Chiswick Councillors help Elmwood Road residents or kick their problem into the long grass? 27/01/15 15:43:00 Brendan McCarthy
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Will Chiswick Councillors help Elmwood Road residents or kick their problem into the long grass? 27/01/15 15:33:00 Dan Murphy
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Will Chiswick Councillors help Elmwood Road residents or kick their problem into the long grass? 27/01/15 15:46:00 Will Watson
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Will Chiswick Councillors help Elmwood Road residents or kick their problem into the long grass? 27/01/15 15:49:00 Brendan McCarthy
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Will Chiswick Councillors help Elmwood Road residents or kick their problem into the long grass? 27/01/15 20:33:00 Richard Jennings
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Will Chiswick Councillors help Elmwood Road residents or kick their problem into the long grass? 28/01/15 05:52:00 Dan Murphy
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Will Chiswick Councillors help Elmwood Road residents or kick their problem into the long grass? 28/01/15 08:31:00 Thomas Barry
                           Who commutes?28/01/15 09:23:00 Ken Munn
                              Re:Who commutes?28/01/15 09:40:00 Colin Jordan
                              Re:Who commutes?28/01/15 09:44:00 Thomas Barry
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Will Chiswick Councillors help Elmwood Road residents or kick their problem into the long grass? 28/01/15 10:04:00 Dan Murphy
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Will Chiswick Councillors help Elmwood Road residents or kick their problem into the long grass? 28/01/15 10:19:00 Marie Power
                                 Will Chiswick Councillors help Elmwood Road residents or kick their problem into the long grass? 28/01/15 10:37:00 Brendan McCarthy
                                    Re:Will Chiswick Councillors help Elmwood Road residents or kick their problem into the long grass? 28/01/15 10:50:00 Dan Murphy
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Will Chiswick Councillors help Elmwood Road residents or kick their problem into the long grass? 28/01/15 10:46:00 Dan Murphy
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Will Chiswick Councillors help Elmwood Road residents or kick their problem into the long grass? 28/01/15 11:08:00 Marie Power
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Will Chiswick Councillors help Elmwood Road residents or kick their problem into the long grass? 28/01/15 11:21:00 Dan Murphy
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Will Chiswick Councillors help Elmwood Road residents or kick their problem into the long grass? 28/01/15 11:29:00 M Patience
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Will Chiswick Councillors help Elmwood Road residents or kick their problem into the long grass? 28/01/15 11:49:00 Dan Murphy
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Will Chiswick Councillors help Elmwood Road residents or kick their problem into the long grass? 28/01/15 11:55:00 Marie Power
                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Will Chiswick Councillors help Elmwood Road residents or kick their problem into the long grass? 28/01/15 12:02:00 Dan Murphy
                                          Re:Commuter Parking28/01/15 13:21:00 Richard Greenhough
                                             Re:Re:Commuter Parking28/01/15 13:45:00 Colin Jordan
                                             Re:Re:Commuter Parking28/01/15 14:17:00 Michael Robinson
                                                Re:Re:Re:Commuter Parking28/01/15 14:37:00 Richard Greenhough
                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Commuter Parking28/01/15 15:08:00 Dan Murphy
                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Commuter Parking28/01/15 15:43:00 Michael Robinson
                                                      So what happened?29/01/15 11:14:00 Sarah Benson
                                                         Re:So what happened?29/01/15 11:28:00 Dan Murphy
                                                            Re:Re:So what happened?29/01/15 11:44:00 Marie Power
                                                            This is what happened29/01/15 11:59:00 Brendan McCarthy
                                                               Re:This is what happened29/01/15 12:26:00 John Hickman
                                                                  This is what happened29/01/15 12:36:00 Brendan McCarthy
                                                               Re:This is what happened29/01/15 12:28:00 Dan Murphy
                                                                  Minutes29/01/15 12:34:00 Ken Munn
                                                                     Re:Minutes29/01/15 12:37:00 Dan Murphy
                                                               Re:This is what happened29/01/15 12:32:00 David Chivers
                                                                  Re:Re:This is what happened29/01/15 12:43:00 Dan Murphy
                                                               Re:Bad Neighbour Brendan29/01/15 13:23:00 Richard Greenhough
                                                                  Re:Re:Bad Neighbour Brendan29/01/15 14:02:00 Brendan McCarthy
                                                                     We're all Brendan's neighbours29/01/15 14:43:00 Andy Murray
                                                                        Re:We're all Brendan's neighbours29/01/15 15:00:00 Brendan McCarthy
                                                                           Re:Re:We're all Brendan's neighbours29/01/15 15:33:00 Andy Murray
                                                                        Re:We're all Brendan's neighbours29/01/15 16:24:00 Thomas Barry
                                                                           What Is And Ever Should Be29/01/15 16:36:00 Andy Murray
                                                                              Re:What Is And Ever Should Be29/01/15 16:58:00 Dan Murphy
                                                                                 Wheelie wheelie free29/01/15 17:02:00 Andy Murray
                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Commuter Parking29/01/15 11:27:00 Ken Munn
                                                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Commuter Parking29/01/15 13:20:00 Richard Greenhough
                                                            Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Commuter Parking29/01/15 13:55:00 Sam Hearn
                                                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Commuter Parking29/01/15 14:19:00 David Chivers
                                                            Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Commuter Parking29/01/15 14:24:00 Dan Murphy
                                                               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Commuter Parking29/01/15 19:13:00 David Chivers
                                                                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Commuter Parking29/01/15 19:36:00 John Hickman
                                                                  Removal of the 'not in  2-roads only' CPZ policy29/01/15 19:59:00 Andy Murray
                                                                     Ah yes, I remember it well30/01/15 00:04:00 Sarah Benson
                                                                        Re:Ah yes, I remember it well30/01/15 02:36:00 Madeleine Hazard
                                                                           Re:Re:Ah yes, I remember it well30/01/15 07:28:00 Dan Murphy
                                                                           Re:Re:Ah yes, I remember it well30/01/15 09:49:00 Brendan McCarthy
                                                               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Commuter Parking01/02/15 16:28:00 David Chivers
                                                                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Commuter Parking02/02/15 12:08:00 Dan Murphy

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