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Topic: Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Will Chiswick Councillors help Elmwood Road residents or kick their problem into the long grass?
Posted by: Dan Murphy
Date/Time: 28/01/15 05:52:00

Richard

Cllr. Mayne was asked dozens of times to carry out some official research into numbers of cars in the car park, and in Park & Staveley Roads. That research could have shown numbers, ownership, how many spaces there were, and so on.

He point blank refused to carry out any research before and after introducing car park charges; before and after implementing the CPZ. Councillor Paul Lynch made it even clearer, he wrote in one email that such research would be "an expensive waste of public resources". Councillor Lynch is a strong supporter of an area wide CPZ, but not backed by any research. He just believes we should have it.

The GPG did carry out research into numbers during late 2012, but whenever these numbers are used, they are criticised for being "biased and made up to support the anti-CPZ view". So you really can't win can you?

For what it's worth, the GPG group did count parking spaces in Park Road before and after Car Park charges were introduced in December 2012 (Councillor Mayne also refused point blank to do this).

In September / October 2012, average of 28 free spaces available in the morning; 67 in the evening. (These numbers were officially published at the CAF in November 2012 so they were recognised).

In December / January (after Car Park charges were introduced but before CPZ) there was an average of 27 spaces in the morning; 57 in the evening.

This showed two things:

1. Councillor Mayne's personal theory of "massive displacement" from the car park into Park Road was total nonsense. As we all knew it was. There was never any displacement of commuter cars because there were never any commuter cars in that car park, as we all knew.

2. There were always plenty of spaces in Park Road. They never needed a CPZ in the first place. 72% of them park in their driveways.

The whole thing was simply cooked up, and all local objection was deliberately ignored.

The council are going to put CPZ across the whole of Grove Park, and they don't care that the overwhelming majority of residents are firmly against it. Residents' view count for nothing. This is their policy.


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Will Chiswick Councillors help Elmwood Road residents or kick their problem into the long grass? 26/01/15 13:15:00 David Chivers
   Re:Will Chiswick Councillors help Elmwood Road residents or kick their problem into the long grass? 26/01/15 13:19:00 Claire Moran
      Re:Re:Will Chiswick Councillors help Elmwood Road residents or kick their problem into the long grass? 26/01/15 13:21:00 Richard Greenhough
         Re:Re:Re:Will Chiswick Councillors help kick Elmwood Road residents in the g arss?26/01/15 13:24:00 Russell Pearson
   Re:Will Chiswick Councillors help Elmwood Road residents or kick their problem into the long grass? 26/01/15 13:23:00 Richard Greenhough
      Re:Re:Will Chiswick Councillors help Elmwood Road residents or kick their problem into the long grass? 26/01/15 14:29:00 David Chivers
         Re:Re:Re:Will Chiswick Councillors help Elmwood Road residents or kick their problem into the long grass? 26/01/15 15:02:00 Andrew Jones
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Will Chiswick Councillors help Elmwood Road residents or kick their problem into the long grass? 26/01/15 15:25:00 David Chivers
         Re:Re:Re:Will Chiswick Councillors help Elmwood Road residents or kick their problem into the long grass? 26/01/15 17:03:00 Richard Greenhough
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Will Chiswick Councillors help Elmwood Road residents or kick their problem into the long grass? 27/01/15 07:52:00 James Holmes-Siedle
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Will Chiswick Councillors help Elmwood Road residents or kick their problem into the long grass? 27/01/15 08:15:00 Colin Jordan
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Will Chiswick Councillors help Elmwood Road residents or kick their problem into the long grass? 27/01/15 08:19:00 Thomas Barry
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Will Chiswick Councillors help Elmwood Road residents or kick their problem into the long grass? 27/01/15 08:24:00 James Holmes-Siedle
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Will Chiswick Councillors help Elmwood Road residents or kick their problem into the long grass? 27/01/15 08:27:00 Brendan McCarthy
                  Alternatives to CPZ27/01/15 09:41:00 Thomas Barry
                     Re:Alternatives to CPZ27/01/15 11:10:00 Richard Greenhough
                        Re:Re:Alternatives to CPZ27/01/15 11:22:00 Brendan McCarthy
   Re:Will Chiswick Councillors help Elmwood Road residents or kick their problem into the long grass? 27/01/15 08:23:00 Sean Wales
      Re:Re:Will Chiswick Councillors help Elmwood Road residents or kick their problem into the long grass? 27/01/15 09:00:00 Madeleine Hazard
         Re:Re:Re:Will Chiswick Councillors help Elmwood Road residents or kick their problem into the long grass? 27/01/15 11:28:00 Sean Wales
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Will Chiswick Councillors help Elmwood Road residents or kick their problem into the long grass? 27/01/15 11:53:00 David Chivers
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Will Chiswick Councillors help Elmwood Road residents or kick their problem into the long grass? 27/01/15 12:09:00 Colin Jordan
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Will Chiswick Councillors help Elmwood Road residents or kick their problem into the long grass? 27/01/15 12:38:00 Thomas Barry
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Will Chiswick Councillors help Elmwood Road residents or kick their problem into the long grass? 27/01/15 13:06:00 Richard Greenhough
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Will Chiswick Councillors help Elmwood Road residents or kick their problem into the long grass? 27/01/15 14:04:00 Dan Murphy
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Will Chiswick Councillors help Elmwood Road residents or kick their problem into the long grass? 27/01/15 15:03:00 David Chivers
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Will Chiswick Councillors help Elmwood Road residents or kick their problem into the long grass? 27/01/15 15:24:00 Richard Greenhough
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Will Chiswick Councillors help Elmwood Road residents or kick their problem into the long grass? 27/01/15 15:43:00 Brendan McCarthy
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Will Chiswick Councillors help Elmwood Road residents or kick their problem into the long grass? 27/01/15 15:33:00 Dan Murphy
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Will Chiswick Councillors help Elmwood Road residents or kick their problem into the long grass? 27/01/15 15:46:00 Will Watson
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Will Chiswick Councillors help Elmwood Road residents or kick their problem into the long grass? 27/01/15 15:49:00 Brendan McCarthy
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Will Chiswick Councillors help Elmwood Road residents or kick their problem into the long grass? 27/01/15 20:33:00 Richard Jennings
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Will Chiswick Councillors help Elmwood Road residents or kick their problem into the long grass? 28/01/15 05:52:00 Dan Murphy
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Will Chiswick Councillors help Elmwood Road residents or kick their problem into the long grass? 28/01/15 08:31:00 Thomas Barry
                           Who commutes?28/01/15 09:23:00 Ken Munn
                              Re:Who commutes?28/01/15 09:40:00 Colin Jordan
                              Re:Who commutes?28/01/15 09:44:00 Thomas Barry
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Will Chiswick Councillors help Elmwood Road residents or kick their problem into the long grass? 28/01/15 10:04:00 Dan Murphy
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Will Chiswick Councillors help Elmwood Road residents or kick their problem into the long grass? 28/01/15 10:19:00 Marie Power
                                 Will Chiswick Councillors help Elmwood Road residents or kick their problem into the long grass? 28/01/15 10:37:00 Brendan McCarthy
                                    Re:Will Chiswick Councillors help Elmwood Road residents or kick their problem into the long grass? 28/01/15 10:50:00 Dan Murphy
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Will Chiswick Councillors help Elmwood Road residents or kick their problem into the long grass? 28/01/15 10:46:00 Dan Murphy
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Will Chiswick Councillors help Elmwood Road residents or kick their problem into the long grass? 28/01/15 11:08:00 Marie Power
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Will Chiswick Councillors help Elmwood Road residents or kick their problem into the long grass? 28/01/15 11:21:00 Dan Murphy
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Will Chiswick Councillors help Elmwood Road residents or kick their problem into the long grass? 28/01/15 11:29:00 M Patience
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Will Chiswick Councillors help Elmwood Road residents or kick their problem into the long grass? 28/01/15 11:49:00 Dan Murphy
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Will Chiswick Councillors help Elmwood Road residents or kick their problem into the long grass? 28/01/15 11:55:00 Marie Power
                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Will Chiswick Councillors help Elmwood Road residents or kick their problem into the long grass? 28/01/15 12:02:00 Dan Murphy
                                          Re:Commuter Parking28/01/15 13:21:00 Richard Greenhough
                                             Re:Re:Commuter Parking28/01/15 13:45:00 Colin Jordan
                                             Re:Re:Commuter Parking28/01/15 14:17:00 Michael Robinson
                                                Re:Re:Re:Commuter Parking28/01/15 14:37:00 Richard Greenhough
                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Commuter Parking28/01/15 15:08:00 Dan Murphy
                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Commuter Parking28/01/15 15:43:00 Michael Robinson
                                                      So what happened?29/01/15 11:14:00 Sarah Benson
                                                         Re:So what happened?29/01/15 11:28:00 Dan Murphy
                                                            Re:Re:So what happened?29/01/15 11:44:00 Marie Power
                                                            This is what happened29/01/15 11:59:00 Brendan McCarthy
                                                               Re:This is what happened29/01/15 12:26:00 John Hickman
                                                                  This is what happened29/01/15 12:36:00 Brendan McCarthy
                                                               Re:This is what happened29/01/15 12:28:00 Dan Murphy
                                                                  Minutes29/01/15 12:34:00 Ken Munn
                                                                     Re:Minutes29/01/15 12:37:00 Dan Murphy
                                                               Re:This is what happened29/01/15 12:32:00 David Chivers
                                                                  Re:Re:This is what happened29/01/15 12:43:00 Dan Murphy
                                                               Re:Bad Neighbour Brendan29/01/15 13:23:00 Richard Greenhough
                                                                  Re:Re:Bad Neighbour Brendan29/01/15 14:02:00 Brendan McCarthy
                                                                     We're all Brendan's neighbours29/01/15 14:43:00 Andy Murray
                                                                        Re:We're all Brendan's neighbours29/01/15 15:00:00 Brendan McCarthy
                                                                           Re:Re:We're all Brendan's neighbours29/01/15 15:33:00 Andy Murray
                                                                        Re:We're all Brendan's neighbours29/01/15 16:24:00 Thomas Barry
                                                                           What Is And Ever Should Be29/01/15 16:36:00 Andy Murray
                                                                              Re:What Is And Ever Should Be29/01/15 16:58:00 Dan Murphy
                                                                                 Wheelie wheelie free29/01/15 17:02:00 Andy Murray
                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Commuter Parking29/01/15 11:27:00 Ken Munn
                                                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Commuter Parking29/01/15 13:20:00 Richard Greenhough
                                                            Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Commuter Parking29/01/15 13:55:00 Sam Hearn
                                                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Commuter Parking29/01/15 14:19:00 David Chivers
                                                            Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Commuter Parking29/01/15 14:24:00 Dan Murphy
                                                               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Commuter Parking29/01/15 19:13:00 David Chivers
                                                                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Commuter Parking29/01/15 19:36:00 John Hickman
                                                                  Removal of the 'not in  2-roads only' CPZ policy29/01/15 19:59:00 Andy Murray
                                                                     Ah yes, I remember it well30/01/15 00:04:00 Sarah Benson
                                                                        Re:Ah yes, I remember it well30/01/15 02:36:00 Madeleine Hazard
                                                                           Re:Re:Ah yes, I remember it well30/01/15 07:28:00 Dan Murphy
                                                                           Re:Re:Ah yes, I remember it well30/01/15 09:49:00 Brendan McCarthy
                                                               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Commuter Parking01/02/15 16:28:00 David Chivers
                                                                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Commuter Parking02/02/15 12:08:00 Dan Murphy

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