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Topic: Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Will Chiswick Councillors help Elmwood Road residents or kick their problem into the long grass?
Posted by: Dan Murphy
Date/Time: 27/01/15 14:04:00

"What i can't understand about local ward Councillors is why  they insist on asking people in roads with no commuter parking if they want a CPZ"

David, it's really difficult to know how to respond to someone who insists on saying black is white.

You must know (you must!!) that the Traffic Officers at LBH have doggedly pursued their clear aim of an area wide CPZ in Grove Park precisely by IGNORING all the roads that are generally anti-CPZ (which is the overwhelming majority of roads in Grove Park as we all know). When consulting on the 2-Road CPZ, they ONLY consulted with Park and Staveley and deliberately excluded all the neighbouring roads who were so clearly impacted by the CPZ in those 2 roads. This is exactly the opposite of what you have claimed.

When over 400 residents in other roads sent in written objections to the CPZ they were comprehensively ignored by Traffic Officers. This is precisely the opposite of what you are claiming. Their responses were effectively thrown in the bin.

And with the more recent 12 road extension CPZ, the Traffic Officers ONLY consulted with the roads who had already asked for a CPZ, in the sure knowledge that the result would be clearly pro-CPZ. They deliberately EXCLUDED all the neighbouring roads who would surely be impacted by the displacement. Which is exactly the opposite of what you have claimed.

Worse than that, the Traffic officers spent public money on sending all the residents in those 12 roads FREEPOST envelopes to make it nice and easy for them to respond. For everyone else in Grove Park (who are legitimately entitled to have their views heard), Traffic Officers refused to inform them of the consultation, they simply said they could download a form from their website, if they could be bothered. And if they happened to read about it on the W4 Forum. And they would have to pay their own postage. Dozens of people did exactly that, but what did Traffic officers do with their perfectly valid responses? They threw them in the bin and didn't even include them in the final results. This is exactly the opposite of what you have claimed.

What we are hoping our councillors will do this week at the CAF is accept the principle that ALL residents in Grove Park will be affected by a CPZ (displacement affects everyone), and so ALL residents should be consulted.

That's all we are asking for. That everyone's view is heard.  What you have claimed in your post is so inaccurate it's hard to respond to. I really can't work out if you genuinely believe it, surely you can't?


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Will Chiswick Councillors help Elmwood Road residents or kick their problem into the long grass? 26/01/15 13:15:00 David Chivers
   Re:Will Chiswick Councillors help Elmwood Road residents or kick their problem into the long grass? 26/01/15 13:19:00 Claire Moran
      Re:Re:Will Chiswick Councillors help Elmwood Road residents or kick their problem into the long grass? 26/01/15 13:21:00 Richard Greenhough
         Re:Re:Re:Will Chiswick Councillors help kick Elmwood Road residents in the g arss?26/01/15 13:24:00 Russell Pearson
   Re:Will Chiswick Councillors help Elmwood Road residents or kick their problem into the long grass? 26/01/15 13:23:00 Richard Greenhough
      Re:Re:Will Chiswick Councillors help Elmwood Road residents or kick their problem into the long grass? 26/01/15 14:29:00 David Chivers
         Re:Re:Re:Will Chiswick Councillors help Elmwood Road residents or kick their problem into the long grass? 26/01/15 15:02:00 Andrew Jones
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Will Chiswick Councillors help Elmwood Road residents or kick their problem into the long grass? 26/01/15 15:25:00 David Chivers
         Re:Re:Re:Will Chiswick Councillors help Elmwood Road residents or kick their problem into the long grass? 26/01/15 17:03:00 Richard Greenhough
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Will Chiswick Councillors help Elmwood Road residents or kick their problem into the long grass? 27/01/15 07:52:00 James Holmes-Siedle
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Will Chiswick Councillors help Elmwood Road residents or kick their problem into the long grass? 27/01/15 08:15:00 Colin Jordan
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Will Chiswick Councillors help Elmwood Road residents or kick their problem into the long grass? 27/01/15 08:19:00 Thomas Barry
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Will Chiswick Councillors help Elmwood Road residents or kick their problem into the long grass? 27/01/15 08:24:00 James Holmes-Siedle
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Will Chiswick Councillors help Elmwood Road residents or kick their problem into the long grass? 27/01/15 08:27:00 Brendan McCarthy
                  Alternatives to CPZ27/01/15 09:41:00 Thomas Barry
                     Re:Alternatives to CPZ27/01/15 11:10:00 Richard Greenhough
                        Re:Re:Alternatives to CPZ27/01/15 11:22:00 Brendan McCarthy
   Re:Will Chiswick Councillors help Elmwood Road residents or kick their problem into the long grass? 27/01/15 08:23:00 Sean Wales
      Re:Re:Will Chiswick Councillors help Elmwood Road residents or kick their problem into the long grass? 27/01/15 09:00:00 Madeleine Hazard
         Re:Re:Re:Will Chiswick Councillors help Elmwood Road residents or kick their problem into the long grass? 27/01/15 11:28:00 Sean Wales
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Will Chiswick Councillors help Elmwood Road residents or kick their problem into the long grass? 27/01/15 11:53:00 David Chivers
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Will Chiswick Councillors help Elmwood Road residents or kick their problem into the long grass? 27/01/15 12:09:00 Colin Jordan
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Will Chiswick Councillors help Elmwood Road residents or kick their problem into the long grass? 27/01/15 12:38:00 Thomas Barry
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Will Chiswick Councillors help Elmwood Road residents or kick their problem into the long grass? 27/01/15 13:06:00 Richard Greenhough
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Will Chiswick Councillors help Elmwood Road residents or kick their problem into the long grass? 27/01/15 14:04:00 Dan Murphy
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Will Chiswick Councillors help Elmwood Road residents or kick their problem into the long grass? 27/01/15 15:03:00 David Chivers
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Will Chiswick Councillors help Elmwood Road residents or kick their problem into the long grass? 27/01/15 15:24:00 Richard Greenhough
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Will Chiswick Councillors help Elmwood Road residents or kick their problem into the long grass? 27/01/15 15:43:00 Brendan McCarthy
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Will Chiswick Councillors help Elmwood Road residents or kick their problem into the long grass? 27/01/15 15:33:00 Dan Murphy
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Will Chiswick Councillors help Elmwood Road residents or kick their problem into the long grass? 27/01/15 15:46:00 Will Watson
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Will Chiswick Councillors help Elmwood Road residents or kick their problem into the long grass? 27/01/15 15:49:00 Brendan McCarthy
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Will Chiswick Councillors help Elmwood Road residents or kick their problem into the long grass? 27/01/15 20:33:00 Richard Jennings
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Will Chiswick Councillors help Elmwood Road residents or kick their problem into the long grass? 28/01/15 05:52:00 Dan Murphy
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Will Chiswick Councillors help Elmwood Road residents or kick their problem into the long grass? 28/01/15 08:31:00 Thomas Barry
                           Who commutes?28/01/15 09:23:00 Ken Munn
                              Re:Who commutes?28/01/15 09:40:00 Colin Jordan
                              Re:Who commutes?28/01/15 09:44:00 Thomas Barry
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Will Chiswick Councillors help Elmwood Road residents or kick their problem into the long grass? 28/01/15 10:04:00 Dan Murphy
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Will Chiswick Councillors help Elmwood Road residents or kick their problem into the long grass? 28/01/15 10:19:00 Marie Power
                                 Will Chiswick Councillors help Elmwood Road residents or kick their problem into the long grass? 28/01/15 10:37:00 Brendan McCarthy
                                    Re:Will Chiswick Councillors help Elmwood Road residents or kick their problem into the long grass? 28/01/15 10:50:00 Dan Murphy
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Will Chiswick Councillors help Elmwood Road residents or kick their problem into the long grass? 28/01/15 10:46:00 Dan Murphy
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Will Chiswick Councillors help Elmwood Road residents or kick their problem into the long grass? 28/01/15 11:08:00 Marie Power
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Will Chiswick Councillors help Elmwood Road residents or kick their problem into the long grass? 28/01/15 11:21:00 Dan Murphy
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Will Chiswick Councillors help Elmwood Road residents or kick their problem into the long grass? 28/01/15 11:29:00 M Patience
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Will Chiswick Councillors help Elmwood Road residents or kick their problem into the long grass? 28/01/15 11:49:00 Dan Murphy
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Will Chiswick Councillors help Elmwood Road residents or kick their problem into the long grass? 28/01/15 11:55:00 Marie Power
                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Will Chiswick Councillors help Elmwood Road residents or kick their problem into the long grass? 28/01/15 12:02:00 Dan Murphy
                                          Re:Commuter Parking28/01/15 13:21:00 Richard Greenhough
                                             Re:Re:Commuter Parking28/01/15 13:45:00 Colin Jordan
                                             Re:Re:Commuter Parking28/01/15 14:17:00 Michael Robinson
                                                Re:Re:Re:Commuter Parking28/01/15 14:37:00 Richard Greenhough
                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Commuter Parking28/01/15 15:08:00 Dan Murphy
                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Commuter Parking28/01/15 15:43:00 Michael Robinson
                                                      So what happened?29/01/15 11:14:00 Sarah Benson
                                                         Re:So what happened?29/01/15 11:28:00 Dan Murphy
                                                            Re:Re:So what happened?29/01/15 11:44:00 Marie Power
                                                            This is what happened29/01/15 11:59:00 Brendan McCarthy
                                                               Re:This is what happened29/01/15 12:26:00 John Hickman
                                                                  This is what happened29/01/15 12:36:00 Brendan McCarthy
                                                               Re:This is what happened29/01/15 12:28:00 Dan Murphy
                                                                  Minutes29/01/15 12:34:00 Ken Munn
                                                                     Re:Minutes29/01/15 12:37:00 Dan Murphy
                                                               Re:This is what happened29/01/15 12:32:00 David Chivers
                                                                  Re:Re:This is what happened29/01/15 12:43:00 Dan Murphy
                                                               Re:Bad Neighbour Brendan29/01/15 13:23:00 Richard Greenhough
                                                                  Re:Re:Bad Neighbour Brendan29/01/15 14:02:00 Brendan McCarthy
                                                                     We're all Brendan's neighbours29/01/15 14:43:00 Andy Murray
                                                                        Re:We're all Brendan's neighbours29/01/15 15:00:00 Brendan McCarthy
                                                                           Re:Re:We're all Brendan's neighbours29/01/15 15:33:00 Andy Murray
                                                                        Re:We're all Brendan's neighbours29/01/15 16:24:00 Thomas Barry
                                                                           What Is And Ever Should Be29/01/15 16:36:00 Andy Murray
                                                                              Re:What Is And Ever Should Be29/01/15 16:58:00 Dan Murphy
                                                                                 Wheelie wheelie free29/01/15 17:02:00 Andy Murray
                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Commuter Parking29/01/15 11:27:00 Ken Munn
                                                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Commuter Parking29/01/15 13:20:00 Richard Greenhough
                                                            Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Commuter Parking29/01/15 13:55:00 Sam Hearn
                                                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Commuter Parking29/01/15 14:19:00 David Chivers
                                                            Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Commuter Parking29/01/15 14:24:00 Dan Murphy
                                                               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Commuter Parking29/01/15 19:13:00 David Chivers
                                                                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Commuter Parking29/01/15 19:36:00 John Hickman
                                                                  Removal of the 'not in  2-roads only' CPZ policy29/01/15 19:59:00 Andy Murray
                                                                     Ah yes, I remember it well30/01/15 00:04:00 Sarah Benson
                                                                        Re:Ah yes, I remember it well30/01/15 02:36:00 Madeleine Hazard
                                                                           Re:Re:Ah yes, I remember it well30/01/15 07:28:00 Dan Murphy
                                                                           Re:Re:Ah yes, I remember it well30/01/15 09:49:00 Brendan McCarthy
                                                               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Commuter Parking01/02/15 16:28:00 David Chivers
                                                                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Commuter Parking02/02/15 12:08:00 Dan Murphy

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