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Topic: Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Empire House redevelopment goes to Hounslow planning committee 29/1
Posted by: Elizabeth Ross
Date/Time: 26/01/15 10:39:00

Guy you may hate 'unsubstantiated rumours' but the problem lies in the fact that we are never told what is in the pipeline until it is well down the line and we have little or no influence.

I do not know what Simon is referring to but the ones I hear over and over again are the fact that Sainsbury does not own its car park (with British Land they own just the store area and loading bay).  The lease for the car park ends sometime within the next 5 years and so, it would not be unreasonable to assume that plans for that site are (and have been for sometime) discussed.  All these things are a jigsaw puzzle which fit together in time and place.

The accidental posting on the Hindle Tate website 3 years ago alerted us to what is being discussed.  At that time Lend Lease did not own Empire House but in the following years they managed to acquire from the different owners, it and the various parcels of land behind the building which are now the subject of the application being heard on the 29th.  This application is merely the first and you don't think for a moment that the opportunities for developing the car park by other developers will have been left alone - or do you?

The problem is that Lend Lease with their very dense and compact application gives problems to the plans for the car park and this does involve Sainsbury.

We were also made aware some years ago that the owners of 2 adjacent premises had a pre-application meeting with the Council (and this is fact) to put up a 14 storey building.  They were told to 'go away' .  I would surmise that they are sitting very quietly awaiting the outcome of the Empire House and associated buildings to be determined before reforming their plans.  Those buildings are currently 2 storey and if buildings are allowed of 7 and 8 storeys to Lend Lease, then the precedent is set and they will be reforming their own plans.

As Simon put it so well, is that the majority of us are not against redevelopment per se just that we, those who live in Chiswick and appreciate its low rise open aspect, would like to be able to influence the architectural features and the density which are important to us.  You have only to go from Wandsworth to Tower Bridge to understand why it is so important.

On the side of Sainsbury, they are concerned that an 8 storey building will be erected right up to the boundary of their loading bay and the plans show that the bedrooms overlook the loading bay.  Apart from the aesthetics the nature of the business does not go well with residents and they foresee lots of complaints and problems which they would rather avoid. 

Sainsbury are also right to want to ensure that their service road does not form part of Lend Lease's plans for Essex Place as a turning point for large vehicles as this would undoubtedly interfere with the running of their business and have a knock on effect with traffic on Acton Lane and the entry to the car park.

I do not see there is a 'whiff of scandal' unless you take into account that the Planning Officer has not taken into account the various conditions as outlined in Simon's post.

As for rumour mongering, there is probably a bit of that based on some facts and scant information.  What should really be done is that the Council should make known to us all any proposals for the area and then consult with the rate payers as to what is and is not acceptable.  That will scotch any rumours and we the residents will be a part of the process without the feeling of 'done deals' behind the scenes or being trampled over 'rough shod'.

I hope this helps you with your views and wonder if you would be prepared to do some research on this for the benefit of all.


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Empire House redevelopment goes to Hounslow planning committee 29/114/01/15 14:29:00 William Luckman
   Re:Empire House redevelopment goes to Hounslow planning committee 29/114/01/15 16:34:00 Gordon McDonald
      Re:Re:Empire House redevelopment goes to Hounslow planning committee 29/122/01/15 12:23:00 Adam Beamish
         Re:Re:Re:Empire House redevelopment goes to Hounslow planning committee 29/122/01/15 12:32:00 Michael Robinson
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Empire House redevelopment goes to Hounslow planning committee 29/122/01/15 12:39:00 Michael Robinson
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Empire House redevelopment goes to Hounslow planning committee 29/122/01/15 12:56:00 Will Watson
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Empire House redevelopment goes to Hounslow planning committee 29/122/01/15 13:16:00 Michael Robinson
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Empire House redevelopment goes to Hounslow planning committee 29/122/01/15 13:30:00 Elizabeth Ross
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Empire House redevelopment goes to Hounslow planning committee 29/122/01/15 13:40:00 Paul Green
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Empire House redevelopment goes to Hounslow planning committee 29/122/01/15 18:02:00 Michael Robinson
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Empire House redevelopment goes to Hounslow planning committee 29/123/01/15 13:36:00 Elizabeth Ross
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Empire House redevelopment goes to Hounslow planning committee 29/123/01/15 22:19:00 Rima Jones
         Re:Re:Re:Empire House redevelopment goes to Hounslow planning committee 29/122/01/15 20:50:00 Gordon McDonald
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Empire House redevelopment goes to Hounslow planning committee 29/122/01/15 22:39:00 Adam Beamish
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Empire House redevelopment goes to Hounslow planning committee 29/123/01/15 23:41:00 Ann Williams
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Empire House redevelopment goes to Hounslow planning committee 29/124/01/15 00:48:00 Rima Jones
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Empire House redevelopment goes to Hounslow planning committee 29/124/01/15 05:04:00 Gordon McDonald
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Empire House redevelopment goes to Hounslow planning committee 29/124/01/15 10:21:00 Paul Green
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Empire House redevelopment goes to Hounslow planning committee 29/124/01/15 11:03:00 Elizabeth Ross
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Empire House redevelopment goes to Hounslow planning committee 29/124/01/15 11:56:00 Ann Williams
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Empire House redevelopment goes to Hounslow planning committee 29/124/01/15 15:33:00 Elizabeth Ross
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Empire House redevelopment goes to Hounslow planning committee 29/124/01/15 16:06:00 Rima Jones
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Empire House redevelopment goes to Hounslow planning committee 29/124/01/15 17:51:00 Adam Beamish
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Empire House redevelopment goes to Hounslow planning committee 29/124/01/15 18:14:00 Felicity Caborn
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Empire House redevelopment goes to Hounslow planning committee 29/124/01/15 21:23:00 Rima Jones
                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Empire House redevelopment goes to Hounslow planning committee 29/124/01/15 21:52:00 Ann Williams
                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Empire House redevelopment goes to Hounslow planning committee 29/124/01/15 22:03:00 Rima Jones
                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Empire House redevelopment goes to Hounslow planning committee 29/124/01/15 22:24:00 Julian Pavey
                                                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Empire House redevelopment goes to Hounslow planning committee 29/124/01/15 23:23:00 Felicity Caborn
                                                            Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Empire House redevelopment goes to Hounslow planning committee 29/124/01/15 23:34:00 Julian Pavey
                                                               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Empire House redevelopment goes to Hounslow planning committee 29/125/01/15 00:05:00 Rima Jones
                                                                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Empire House redevelopment goes to Hounslow planning committee 29/125/01/15 00:32:00 Rima Jones
                                                                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Empire House redevelopment goes to Hounslow planning committee 29/125/01/15 08:11:00 Gordon McDonald
                                                                        'Greedy Foreign Developers'25/01/15 09:04:00 Paul Pryce
                                                                           Re:'Greedy Foreign Developers'25/01/15 10:37:00 Rima Jones
                                                                              Re:Re:'Greedy Foreign Developers'25/01/15 10:48:00 Rima Jones
                                                                                 Re:Re:Re:'Greedy Foreign Developers'25/01/15 11:34:00 Paul Pryce
                                                                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:'Greedy Foreign Developers'25/01/15 12:16:00 Rima Jones
                                                                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:'Greedy Foreign Developers'25/01/15 12:32:00 Ann Williams
                                                                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:'Greedy Foreign Developers'25/01/15 13:52:00 Paul Pryce
                                                                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:'Greedy Foreign Developers'25/01/15 12:32:00 Paul Pryce
                                                                              Re:Re:'Greedy Foreign Developers'25/01/15 12:37:00 Guy Lambert
                                                                                 Re:Re:Re:'Greedy Foreign Developers'25/01/15 12:59:00 Michael Robinson
                                                                                 Re:Re:Re:'Greedy Foreign Developers'25/01/15 13:32:00 Rima Jones
                                                                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:'Greedy Foreign Developers'25/01/15 13:42:00 Carl Wynne
                                                                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:'Greedy Foreign Developers'25/01/15 13:50:00 Paul Pryce
                                                                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:'Greedy Foreign Developers'25/01/15 14:19:00 Rima Jones
                                                                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:'Greedy Foreign Developers'25/01/15 14:52:00 Paul Pryce
                                                                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:'Greedy Foreign Developers'25/01/15 15:04:00 Rima Jones
                                                                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:'Greedy Foreign Developers'25/01/15 15:09:00 Francis Rowe
                                                                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:'Greedy Foreign Developers'25/01/15 15:19:00 Rima Jones
                                                                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:'Greedy Foreign Developers'25/01/15 16:56:00 Rima Jones
                                                                                                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:'Greedy Foreign Developers'25/01/15 17:33:00 Adam Beamish
                                                                                                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:'Greedy Foreign Developers'25/01/15 17:34:00 Francis Rowe
                                                                                                            Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:'Greedy Foreign Developers'25/01/15 17:52:00 Rima Jones
                                                                                                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:'Greedy Foreign Developers'25/01/15 17:42:00 Claudia Jachtmann
                                                                                                            Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:'Greedy Foreign Developers'25/01/15 18:09:00 Michael Robinson
                                                                                                               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:'Greedy Foreign Developers'25/01/15 18:50:00 Adam Beamish
                                                                                                                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:'Greedy Foreign Developers'25/01/15 22:03:00 Adam Bradley
                                                                                                                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:'Greedy Foreign Developers'26/01/15 00:51:00 Rima Jones
                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Empire House redevelopment goes to Hounslow planning committee 29/125/01/15 18:46:00 Simon Kverndal
                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Empire House redevelopment goes to Hounslow planning committee 29/125/01/15 18:55:00 Adam Beamish
                                                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Empire House redevelopment goes to Hounslow planning committee 29/125/01/15 20:08:00 Paul Green
                                                            Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Empire House redevelopment goes to Hounslow planning committee 29/125/01/15 21:36:00 Simon Kverndal
                                                               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Empire House redevelopment goes to Hounslow planning committee 29/125/01/15 23:41:00 Guy Lambert
                                                                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Empire House redevelopment goes to Hounslow planning committee 29/126/01/15 10:39:00 Elizabeth Ross
                                                                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Empire House redevelopment goes to Hounslow planning committee 29/126/01/15 11:31:00 Paul Green
                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Empire House redevelopment goes to Hounslow planning committee 29/125/01/15 22:35:00 Elizabeth Ross
                                                         LBH -Development & Planning - the bigger picture26/01/15 01:12:00 Claudia Jachtmann
                                                            Re:LBH -Development & Planning - the bigger picture26/01/15 01:32:00 Claudia Jachtmann
                                                               LBH has set up a trading company - Lampton 36026/01/15 02:06:00 Claudia Jachtmann
                                                                  Re:LBH has set up a trading company - Lampton 36026/01/15 02:18:00 Claudia Jachtmann
                                                                     correction - Lampton 360 was set up April 201326/01/15 02:52:00 Claudia Jachtmann
                                                                        Re:correction - Lampton 360 was set up April 201326/01/15 10:21:00 Ann Williams
                                                                           Re:Re:correction - Lampton 360 was set up April 201326/01/15 11:52:00 Rima Jones
                                                                              Re:Re:Re:correction - Lampton 360 was set up April 201326/01/15 12:15:00 Elizabeth Ross
                                                                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:correction - Lampton 360 was set up April 201326/01/15 12:48:00 Rima Jones
                                                                                 Sainsbury's car park/ Lend Lease Planning Application26/01/15 13:03:00 Paul Pryce
                                                                                    Re:Sainsbury's car park/ Lend Lease Planning Application26/01/15 13:18:00 Elizabeth Ross
                                                                                    Re:Sainsbury's car park/ Lend Lease Planning Application26/01/15 13:26:00 Adam Beamish
                                                                                    Re:Sainsbury's car park/ Lend Lease Planning Application26/01/15 13:27:00 Michael Robinson
                                                                                       Re:Re:Sainsbury's car park/ Lend Lease Planning Application26/01/15 14:12:00 Paul Green
                                                                                          Re:Re:Re:Sainsbury's car park/ Lend Lease Planning Application26/01/15 14:43:00 Michael Robinson
                                                                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Sainsbury's car park/ Lend Lease Planning Application26/01/15 15:27:00 Paul Green
                                                                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Sainsbury's car park/ Lend Lease Planning Application26/01/15 15:40:00 Michael Robinson
                                                                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Sainsbury's car park/ Lend Lease Planning Application26/01/15 15:53:00 Paul Green
                                                                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Sainsbury's car park/ Lend Lease Planning Application26/01/15 16:13:00 Michael Robinson
                                                                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Sainsbury's car park/ Lend Lease Planning Application26/01/15 15:35:00 Ann Williams
                                                                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Sainsbury's car park/ Lend Lease Planning Application26/01/15 15:50:00 Carl Wynne
                                                                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Sainsbury's car park/ Lend Lease Planning Application26/01/15 16:29:00 Rima Jones
                                                                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Sainsbury's car park/ Lend Lease Planning Application26/01/15 16:08:00 Rima Jones
                                                                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Sainsbury's car park/ Lend Lease Planning Application26/01/15 17:04:00 Francis Rowe
                                                                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Sainsbury's car park/ Lend Lease Planning Application26/01/15 17:45:00 Claire Moran
                                                                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Sainsbury's car park/ Lend Lease Planning Application26/01/15 17:59:00 Ann Williams
                                                                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Sainsbury's car park/ Lend Lease Planning Application26/01/15 19:25:00 Guy Lambert
                                                                                                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Sainsbury's car park/ Lend Lease Planning Application26/01/15 20:02:00 Rima Jones
                                                                                                            Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Sainsbury's car park/ Lend Lease Planning Application27/01/15 10:02:00 Francis Rowe
                                                                                                               from the LBH Corporate Plan 2014-201927/01/15 18:01:00 Claudia Jachtmann
                                                                                                                  can someone identify this site by the pic ?27/01/15 18:05:00 Claudia Jachtmann
                                                                                                                     Re:can someone identify this site by the pic ?27/01/15 19:41:00 Richard Jennings
                                                                                                                        Re:Re:can someone identify this site by the pic ?27/01/15 20:22:00 Claudia Jachtmann
                                                                                                                  Re:from the LBH Corporate Plan 2014-201927/01/15 18:32:00 Claudia Jachtmann
                                                                                                                     Re:Re:from the LBH Corporate Plan 2014-201928/01/15 10:15:00 Rima Jones
                                                                                                                        Re:Re:Re:from the LBH Corporate Plan 2014-201928/01/15 10:18:00 Elizabeth Ross
                                                                                                                           Re:Re:Re:Re:from the LBH Corporate Plan 2014-201928/01/15 10:54:00 Rima Jones
   Re:Empire House redevelopment goes to Hounslow planning committee 29/129/01/15 11:21:00 Elizabeth Ross
      Re:Re:Empire House redevelopment goes to Hounslow planning committee 29/129/01/15 11:36:00 Rima Jones
         Re:Re:Re:Empire House redevelopment goes to Hounslow planning committee 29/129/01/15 11:51:00 Rima Jones
             Live stream of Counil Planning Meeting to decide on Lend Lease Empire House Development29/01/15 19:27:00 Claudia Jachtmann
               Re: Live stream of Counil Planning Meeting to decide on Lend Lease Empire House Development29/01/15 20:38:00 Ian Wylie
                  Re:Re: Live stream of Counil Planning Meeting to decide on Lend Lease Empire House Development29/01/15 20:40:00 Claudia Jachtmann
                     Re: Live stream of Counil Planning Meeting to decide on Lend Lease Empire House Development29/01/15 20:43:00 Ian Wylie
                        Re:Re: Live stream of Counil Planning Meeting to decide on Lend Lease Empire House Development29/01/15 20:46:00 Claudia Jachtmann
                  Re:Re: Live stream of Counil Planning Meeting to decide on Lend Lease Empire House Development29/01/15 20:49:00 Rima Jones
                     Re:Re:Re: Live stream of Counil Planning Meeting to decide on Lend Lease Empire House Development29/01/15 21:34:00 Claudia Jachtmann
                        Re:Re:Re:Re: Live stream of Counil Planning Meeting to decide on Lend Lease Empire House Development29/01/15 21:49:00 Adam Beamish
                           Lend Lease development approved29/01/15 22:03:00 Claudia Jachtmann
                           Re: Live stream of Counil Planning Meeting to decide on Lend Lease Empire House Development29/01/15 22:04:00 Ian Wylie
                              Re:Re: Live stream of Counil Planning Meeting to decide on Lend Lease Empire House Development29/01/15 22:06:00 Thomas Barry
                                 Re:Re:Re: Live stream of Counil Planning Meeting to decide on Lend Lease Empire House Development29/01/15 22:14:00 Adam Beamish
                                    Re: Live stream of Counil Planning Meeting to decide on Lend Lease Empire House Development30/01/15 06:38:00 Ian Wylie
                                       Re:Re: Live stream of Counil Planning Meeting to decide on Lend Lease Empire House Development30/01/15 08:00:00 Ken Munn
                                          Re:Re:Re: Live stream of Counil Planning Meeting to decide on Lend Lease Empire House Development30/01/15 08:15:00 Paul Green
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re: Live stream of Counil Planning Meeting to decide on Lend Lease Empire House Development30/01/15 08:40:00 Michael Robinson
                                       Re:Re: Live stream of Counil Planning Meeting to decide on Lend Lease Empire House Development30/01/15 09:05:00 Rima Jones
                                          Re:Re:Re: Live stream of Counil Planning Meeting to decide on Lend Lease Empire House Development30/01/15 09:38:00 Adrian Irving
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re: Live stream of Counil Planning Meeting to decide on Lend Lease Empire House Development30/01/15 09:49:00 Adam Bradley
                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Live stream of Counil Planning Meeting to decide on Lend Lease Empire House Development30/01/15 10:07:00 Adrian Irving
                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Live stream of Counil Planning Meeting to decide on Lend Lease Empire House Development30/01/15 10:25:00 Paul Fisher
                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Live stream of Counil Planning Meeting to decide on Lend Lease Empire House Development30/01/15 10:37:00 Elizabeth Ross
                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Live stream of Counil Planning Meeting to decide on Lend Lease Empire House Development30/01/15 11:19:00 Adrian Irving
                                                         bumped for Robert F09/02/15 14:53:00 Claudia Jachtmann

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