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Topic: Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Grove Park-wherever you feel like it.
Posted by: Dan Murphy
Date/Time: 22/01/15 13:54:00

Anne, I am sure you are right. The 83% of respondents in SOTG (and the 93% in te wider GP area) who said they were against any CPZ, most likely had multiple reasons for being against it.

I do know that at least some of those people don't even have cars, they just don't like the idea of CPZ, they feel it would spoil the look and feel of our beautiful village location (I am firmly in that camp, by the way).

But you are absolutely correct in that others don't like the idea of permit fees, signage, wardens, visitors permits, etc. Others don't mind having to park some way from their house.

But the bottom line is that, whatever the individual reasons, the overwhelming majority of households (based on the 2011 doorstep petition at least) are against it.

I think you also have a good point that a lot has changed in four years, not least the huge displacement impact from Park and Staveley Road CPZ. So the results from the 2011 petition will almost certainly have changed, particularly in the roads neighbouring Park & Staveley (we have already seen the first of the requests for 1-road CPZs to alleviate the congestion caused by displacement, as we all predicted).

But, do you think that an 83%  / 93% vote against CPZ will have turned into a majority in favour? Even in four years?

Maybe it has, I simply don't know. The petition is four years old.

The only way to find out would be to do it again, but the Traffic Department refuses to do that (I have been told it would be an "expensive waste of public resources".)

So right now, all we have to go on is four year old data.

And everyone's personal opinions, which are valid but not particularly helpful.

Our best hope is that the CAF decides to conduct an area wide consultation before any further decisions are made.

And hopefully, for that consultation to have objective questions, rather than the "Assuming you are in favour of a CPZ, what should the operating hours be?" type questions favoured by our Traffic Officers.

tricky one isn't it?


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Grove Park-wherever you feel like it.18/01/15 11:05:00 Charles Mendez
   Re:Grove Park-wherever you feel like it.18/01/15 11:32:00 Iris Hill
      Re:Re:Grove Park-wherever you feel like it.18/01/15 12:00:00 Sam Hearn
   Re:Grove Park-wherever you feel like it.18/01/15 12:02:00 Richard Greenhough
   Re:Grove Park-wherever you feel like it.18/01/15 12:50:00 Carl Wynne
   Re:Grove Park-wherever you feel like it.18/01/15 12:51:00 Nigel Brooks
      Re:Re:Grove Park-wherever you feel like it.18/01/15 13:00:00 Elizabeth Ross
   Re:Grove Park-wherever you feel like it.18/01/15 13:23:00 Madeleine Hazard
      Re:Re:Grove Park-wherever you feel like it.18/01/15 13:59:00 Guy Lambert
         Re:Re:Re:Grove Park-wherever you feel like it.19/01/15 10:57:00 Thomas Barry
      Re:Re:Grove Park-wherever you feel like it.19/01/15 11:58:00 Thomas Barry
         Re:Re:Re:Grove Park-wherever you feel like it.19/01/15 13:05:00 Richard Greenhough
   Re:Grove Park-wherever you feel like it.18/01/15 13:59:00 Lou Valdini
      Re:Re:Grove Park-wherever you feel like it.18/01/15 14:18:00 Colin Jordan
   Re:Grove Park-wherever you feel like it.18/01/15 14:27:00 Teresa Qureshi
      Re:Re:Grove Park-wherever you feel like it.18/01/15 21:48:00 Madeleine Hazard
         Re:Re:Re:Grove Park-wherever you feel like it.19/01/15 05:19:00 Dan Murphy
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Grove Park-wherever you feel like it.20/01/15 22:44:00 Madeleine Hazard
   Re:Grove Park-wherever you feel like it.19/01/15 10:54:00 Thomas Barry
      Re:Re:Grove Park-wherever you feel like it.19/01/15 11:01:00 Russell Pearson
         Re:Re:Re:Grove Park-wherever you feel like it.19/01/15 11:17:00 Paul Allen
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Grove Park-wherever you feel like it.19/01/15 14:35:00 Robert Fish
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Grove Park-wherever you feel like it.19/01/15 14:49:00 Ken Munn
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Grove Park-wherever you feel like it.19/01/15 17:02:00 Paul Allen
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Grove Park-wherever you feel like it.19/01/15 17:08:00 Robert Fish
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Grove Park-wherever you feel like it.19/01/15 17:36:00 Andy Pease
                     Re:Middlesex19/01/15 19:21:00 Richard Greenhough
                        Re:Re:Middlesex19/01/15 19:55:00 Richard Jennings
                           Re:Re:Re:Middlesex21/01/15 00:17:00 Ken Munn
                           Re:Re:Re:Middlesex21/01/15 10:04:00 Richard Greenhough
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Middlesex21/01/15 10:18:00 Ken Munn
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Middlesex21/01/15 14:04:00 Bob Guyett
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Middlesex21/01/15 14:35:00 Ken Munn
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Grove Park-wherever you feel like it.21/01/15 14:19:00 Thomas Barry
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Grove Park-wherever you feel like it.21/01/15 14:47:00 Elizabeth Ross
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Grove Park-wherever you feel like it.21/01/15 15:00:00 Andy Pease
   Re:Grove Park-wherever you feel like it.21/01/15 15:19:00 Pete Johnson
      Re:Re:Grove Park-wherever you feel like it.21/01/15 15:52:00 Phil Kay
         Re:Re:Re:Grove Park-wherever you feel like it.21/01/15 16:29:00 Pete Johnson
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Grove Park-wherever you feel like it.21/01/15 16:53:00 Phil Kay
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Grove Park-wherever you feel like it.22/01/15 01:45:00 Madeleine Hazard
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Grove Park-wherever you feel like it.22/01/15 03:15:00 Allan Cheesman
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Grove Park-wherever you feel like it.22/01/15 07:20:00 Dan Murphy
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Grove Park-wherever you feel like it.22/01/15 07:56:00 Dan Murphy
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Grove Park-wherever you feel like it.22/01/15 07:44:00 Ken Munn
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Grove Park-wherever you feel like it.22/01/15 08:10:00 Dan Murphy
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Grove Park-wherever you feel like it.22/01/15 08:55:00 Pete Johnson
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Grove Park-wherever you feel like it.22/01/15 09:11:00 Dan Murphy
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Grove Park-wherever you feel like it.22/01/15 09:28:00 Madeleine Hazard
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Grove Park-wherever you feel like it.22/01/15 09:29:00 Madeleine Hazard
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Grove Park-wherever you feel like it.22/01/15 09:31:00 Richard Greenhough
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Grove Park-wherever you feel like it.22/01/15 09:34:00 Madeleine Hazard
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Grove Park-wherever you feel like it.22/01/15 09:29:00 Richard Greenhough
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Grove Park-wherever you feel like it.22/01/15 09:41:00 Dan Murphy
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Grove Park-wherever you feel like it.22/01/15 11:51:00 Anne Meagher
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Grove Park-wherever you feel like it.22/01/15 12:23:00 Dan Murphy
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Grove Park-wherever you feel like it.22/01/15 13:40:00 Anne Meagher
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Grove Park-wherever you feel like it.22/01/15 13:54:00 Dan Murphy
                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Grove Park-wherever you feel like it.22/01/15 14:07:00 Anne Meagher
                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Grove Park-wherever you feel like it.22/01/15 14:17:00 Dan Murphy
                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Grove Park-wherever you feel like it.22/01/15 14:26:00 Anne Meagher
                                                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Grove Park-wherever you feel like it.22/01/15 14:42:00 Dan Murphy
                                                            Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Grove Park-wherever you feel like it.22/01/15 15:21:00 Anne Meagher
                                                               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Grove Park-wherever you feel like it.22/01/15 15:34:00 Dan Murphy
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Grove Park-wherever you feel like it.22/01/15 12:27:00 Richard Greenhough
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Grove Park-wherever you feel like it.22/01/15 13:42:00 Anne Meagher
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Grove Park-wherever you feel like it.22/01/15 14:16:00 Richard Greenhough
                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Grove Park-wherever you feel like it.22/01/15 14:20:00 Anne Meagher
                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Grove Park-wherever you feel like it.22/01/15 14:28:00 Richard Greenhough
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Grove Park-wherever you feel like it.22/01/15 12:20:00 Allan Cheesman
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Grove Park-wherever you feel like it.22/01/15 12:30:00 Richard Greenhough
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Grove Park-wherever you feel like it.22/01/15 12:36:00 Dan Murphy
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Grove Park-wherever you feel like it.22/01/15 14:17:00 Colin Jordan
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Grove Park-wherever you feel like it.22/01/15 14:22:00 Dan Murphy
                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Grove Park-wherever you feel like it.22/01/15 14:29:00 Richard Greenhough
                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Grove Park-wherever you feel like it.22/01/15 14:55:00 Pete Johnson
                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Grove Park-wherever you feel like it.22/01/15 14:59:00 Dan Murphy
                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Grove Park-wherever you feel like it.22/01/15 15:21:00 Allan Cheesman
                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Grove Park-wherever you feel like it.22/01/15 15:32:00 Dan Murphy
                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Grove Park-wherever you feel like it.22/01/15 21:35:00 Allan Cheesman
   Re:Grove Park-wherever you feel like it.22/01/15 18:37:00 Charles Mendez
      Re:Re:Grove Park-wherever you feel like it.22/01/15 18:56:00 Andy Pease
         Re:Re:Re:Grove Park-wherever you feel like it.23/01/15 07:31:00 Dan Murphy
      Re:Re:Grove Park-wherever you feel like it.23/01/15 07:20:00 Dan Murphy
         Re:Re:Re:Grove Park-wherever you feel like it.23/01/15 08:22:00 Colin Jordan
      Re:Re:Grove Park-wherever you feel like it.23/01/15 09:46:00 Richard Greenhough

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