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Topic: Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Grove Park-wherever you feel like it.
Posted by: Dan Murphy
Date/Time: 22/01/15 12:36:00

Mr Cheesman, do you really think that such childish posts advance your case in any way?

Calling me a "troll" is a bit silly.

And I would emphasise for the hundredth time, I don't give a toss about CPZ one way or the other. I am not "pro commuter parking" at all, you just don't listen.

My argument on all of this is about local democracy. The 2011 doorstep petition proved conclusively that the overwhelming majority of residents in Grove Park / SOTG are firmly against any CPZ. Our local CAF (who are supposed to be accountable for any CPZ decisions) recognised this fully and voted unanimously against any CPZ, back in July 2011.

Since then, the Traffic Officers supported by Councillor Mayne and others have proceeded to chop away at that democratic process and force a creeping CPZ into the area, against the wishes of the majority of residents.

If we had another area-wide consultation, and the majority of residents were in favour of a CPZ I would welcome that. I don't care if we have CPZ or not (well, actually I do, but that's not the point).

It just makes me mad to see local democracy being steamrollered in this way by unelected officials and a few influential and well connected residents (we have all the historical email correspondence between those few individuals / CHGT Trustees and Councillor Mayne, so we know exactly what went on).

And that just because you and your small band had unprecedented access and influence with the Lead Member at the time, who then took the unprecedented decision to override the democratic CAF decision, the whole of Grove Park is likely to have to suffer an area wide CPZ even though the vast majority of residents are against it.

I know you are dizzy with joy over your CPZ / private road (even though you never needed it), but that's not democracy Mr Cheesman. Everyone likely to be affected should be consulted, and this is what we hope will be the outcome of the CAF meeting on Jan 28th - that everyone's opinion is listened to. Not just yours.

Regarding the 5 cars parked in your drive, I'm not sure if that's a joke or not. It wouldn't surprise me to be honest.


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Grove Park-wherever you feel like it.18/01/15 11:05:00 Charles Mendez
   Re:Grove Park-wherever you feel like it.18/01/15 11:32:00 Iris Hill
      Re:Re:Grove Park-wherever you feel like it.18/01/15 12:00:00 Sam Hearn
   Re:Grove Park-wherever you feel like it.18/01/15 12:02:00 Richard Greenhough
   Re:Grove Park-wherever you feel like it.18/01/15 12:50:00 Carl Wynne
   Re:Grove Park-wherever you feel like it.18/01/15 12:51:00 Nigel Brooks
      Re:Re:Grove Park-wherever you feel like it.18/01/15 13:00:00 Elizabeth Ross
   Re:Grove Park-wherever you feel like it.18/01/15 13:23:00 Madeleine Hazard
      Re:Re:Grove Park-wherever you feel like it.18/01/15 13:59:00 Guy Lambert
         Re:Re:Re:Grove Park-wherever you feel like it.19/01/15 10:57:00 Thomas Barry
      Re:Re:Grove Park-wherever you feel like it.19/01/15 11:58:00 Thomas Barry
         Re:Re:Re:Grove Park-wherever you feel like it.19/01/15 13:05:00 Richard Greenhough
   Re:Grove Park-wherever you feel like it.18/01/15 13:59:00 Lou Valdini
      Re:Re:Grove Park-wherever you feel like it.18/01/15 14:18:00 Colin Jordan
   Re:Grove Park-wherever you feel like it.18/01/15 14:27:00 Teresa Qureshi
      Re:Re:Grove Park-wherever you feel like it.18/01/15 21:48:00 Madeleine Hazard
         Re:Re:Re:Grove Park-wherever you feel like it.19/01/15 05:19:00 Dan Murphy
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Grove Park-wherever you feel like it.20/01/15 22:44:00 Madeleine Hazard
   Re:Grove Park-wherever you feel like it.19/01/15 10:54:00 Thomas Barry
      Re:Re:Grove Park-wherever you feel like it.19/01/15 11:01:00 Russell Pearson
         Re:Re:Re:Grove Park-wherever you feel like it.19/01/15 11:17:00 Paul Allen
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Grove Park-wherever you feel like it.19/01/15 14:35:00 Robert Fish
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Grove Park-wherever you feel like it.19/01/15 14:49:00 Ken Munn
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Grove Park-wherever you feel like it.19/01/15 17:02:00 Paul Allen
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Grove Park-wherever you feel like it.19/01/15 17:08:00 Robert Fish
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Grove Park-wherever you feel like it.19/01/15 17:36:00 Andy Pease
                     Re:Middlesex19/01/15 19:21:00 Richard Greenhough
                        Re:Re:Middlesex19/01/15 19:55:00 Richard Jennings
                           Re:Re:Re:Middlesex21/01/15 00:17:00 Ken Munn
                           Re:Re:Re:Middlesex21/01/15 10:04:00 Richard Greenhough
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Middlesex21/01/15 10:18:00 Ken Munn
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Middlesex21/01/15 14:04:00 Bob Guyett
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Middlesex21/01/15 14:35:00 Ken Munn
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Grove Park-wherever you feel like it.21/01/15 14:19:00 Thomas Barry
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Grove Park-wherever you feel like it.21/01/15 14:47:00 Elizabeth Ross
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Grove Park-wherever you feel like it.21/01/15 15:00:00 Andy Pease
   Re:Grove Park-wherever you feel like it.21/01/15 15:19:00 Pete Johnson
      Re:Re:Grove Park-wherever you feel like it.21/01/15 15:52:00 Phil Kay
         Re:Re:Re:Grove Park-wherever you feel like it.21/01/15 16:29:00 Pete Johnson
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Grove Park-wherever you feel like it.21/01/15 16:53:00 Phil Kay
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Grove Park-wherever you feel like it.22/01/15 01:45:00 Madeleine Hazard
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Grove Park-wherever you feel like it.22/01/15 03:15:00 Allan Cheesman
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Grove Park-wherever you feel like it.22/01/15 07:20:00 Dan Murphy
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Grove Park-wherever you feel like it.22/01/15 07:56:00 Dan Murphy
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Grove Park-wherever you feel like it.22/01/15 07:44:00 Ken Munn
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Grove Park-wherever you feel like it.22/01/15 08:10:00 Dan Murphy
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Grove Park-wherever you feel like it.22/01/15 08:55:00 Pete Johnson
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Grove Park-wherever you feel like it.22/01/15 09:11:00 Dan Murphy
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Grove Park-wherever you feel like it.22/01/15 09:28:00 Madeleine Hazard
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Grove Park-wherever you feel like it.22/01/15 09:29:00 Madeleine Hazard
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Grove Park-wherever you feel like it.22/01/15 09:31:00 Richard Greenhough
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Grove Park-wherever you feel like it.22/01/15 09:34:00 Madeleine Hazard
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Grove Park-wherever you feel like it.22/01/15 09:29:00 Richard Greenhough
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Grove Park-wherever you feel like it.22/01/15 09:41:00 Dan Murphy
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Grove Park-wherever you feel like it.22/01/15 11:51:00 Anne Meagher
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Grove Park-wherever you feel like it.22/01/15 12:23:00 Dan Murphy
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Grove Park-wherever you feel like it.22/01/15 13:40:00 Anne Meagher
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Grove Park-wherever you feel like it.22/01/15 13:54:00 Dan Murphy
                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Grove Park-wherever you feel like it.22/01/15 14:07:00 Anne Meagher
                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Grove Park-wherever you feel like it.22/01/15 14:17:00 Dan Murphy
                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Grove Park-wherever you feel like it.22/01/15 14:26:00 Anne Meagher
                                                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Grove Park-wherever you feel like it.22/01/15 14:42:00 Dan Murphy
                                                            Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Grove Park-wherever you feel like it.22/01/15 15:21:00 Anne Meagher
                                                               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Grove Park-wherever you feel like it.22/01/15 15:34:00 Dan Murphy
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Grove Park-wherever you feel like it.22/01/15 12:27:00 Richard Greenhough
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Grove Park-wherever you feel like it.22/01/15 13:42:00 Anne Meagher
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Grove Park-wherever you feel like it.22/01/15 14:16:00 Richard Greenhough
                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Grove Park-wherever you feel like it.22/01/15 14:20:00 Anne Meagher
                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Grove Park-wherever you feel like it.22/01/15 14:28:00 Richard Greenhough
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Grove Park-wherever you feel like it.22/01/15 12:20:00 Allan Cheesman
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Grove Park-wherever you feel like it.22/01/15 12:30:00 Richard Greenhough
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Grove Park-wherever you feel like it.22/01/15 12:36:00 Dan Murphy
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Grove Park-wherever you feel like it.22/01/15 14:17:00 Colin Jordan
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Grove Park-wherever you feel like it.22/01/15 14:22:00 Dan Murphy
                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Grove Park-wherever you feel like it.22/01/15 14:29:00 Richard Greenhough
                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Grove Park-wherever you feel like it.22/01/15 14:55:00 Pete Johnson
                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Grove Park-wherever you feel like it.22/01/15 14:59:00 Dan Murphy
                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Grove Park-wherever you feel like it.22/01/15 15:21:00 Allan Cheesman
                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Grove Park-wherever you feel like it.22/01/15 15:32:00 Dan Murphy
                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Grove Park-wherever you feel like it.22/01/15 21:35:00 Allan Cheesman
   Re:Grove Park-wherever you feel like it.22/01/15 18:37:00 Charles Mendez
      Re:Re:Grove Park-wherever you feel like it.22/01/15 18:56:00 Andy Pease
         Re:Re:Re:Grove Park-wherever you feel like it.23/01/15 07:31:00 Dan Murphy
      Re:Re:Grove Park-wherever you feel like it.23/01/15 07:20:00 Dan Murphy
         Re:Re:Re:Grove Park-wherever you feel like it.23/01/15 08:22:00 Colin Jordan
      Re:Re:Grove Park-wherever you feel like it.23/01/15 09:46:00 Richard Greenhough

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