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Topic: Re:Re:Two Myths About the Housing Market
Posted by: Andrew Cumming
Date/Time: 06/01/15 10:21:00

This doesn’t suprise me at all. But it does not really mean that things are all rosy. Around December 2013 I observed an absolute panic in my friends and colleagues of the ages 25-30. People love to state that the take up of Help to Buy in London has been so small as to be insignificant in terms of price rises. Unfortunately, the actual take up was irrelevant. The massive media coverage of the scheme accompanied by the apocalyptic messages of “buy now or be priced out forever”, “London is different”, “prices will go up by X amount over the next five years” messages sent people running cap in hand to their parents for as much as they could possibly get. Over the first 4-5 months of 2014 most of the conversation at my work revolved around the various terrifying mass viewings of squalid flats and how above asking price offers had been far outbid by more desperate buyers. I know of so many people over the last year who have jumped onto the “housing ladder”, stretching themselves to buy places that they wouldn’t have looked at before or that are unsuitable for them. A 35 year-old who wishes to have a family stretching themselves to buy a ratty one bedroom flat does not make much sense outside of a bubble environment.

Remember, this rush to buy was not prompted by a massively recovering economy or by first time buyers getting richer, it was, in my opinion, the result of a carefully orchestrated political and media campaign to get homeowners feel richer and to tie more young people into the bottom of the ponzi scheme at any cost. You might say that 22% is not the end of days, but when you look at wage increase over the same period, or even since 2007, it is certainly scary. Average price to average wage ratios are already beyond sense and getting worse.

Just my humble view from the front line.


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We no longer have a 'Home' Housing Market05/01/15 14:18:00 Adrian Irving
   Re:We no longer have a 'Home' Housing Market05/01/15 14:30:00 Huw Burford-Taylor
      Re:Re:We no longer have a 'Home' Housing Market05/01/15 16:36:00 Andrew Cumming
         Re:Re:Re:We no longer have a 'Home' Housing Market05/01/15 16:51:00 Guy Lambert
         Re:Re:Re:We no longer have a 'Home' Housing Market05/01/15 16:57:00 Richard Greenhough
            Re:Re:Re:Re:We no longer have a 'Home' Housing Market05/01/15 17:01:00 Andrew Cumming
   Re:We no longer have a 'Home' Housing Market05/01/15 14:37:00 Michael Brown
   Re:We no longer have a 'Home' Housing Market05/01/15 14:47:00 Francis Rowe
      Re:Re:We no longer have a 'Home' Housing Market05/01/15 15:56:00 Keith Iddon
         Re:Re:Re:We no longer have a 'Home' Housing Market05/01/15 16:39:00 Guy Lambert
   Re:We no longer have a 'Home' Housing Market05/01/15 17:11:00 Adrian Irving
      Re:Re:We no longer have a 'Home' Housing Market05/01/15 17:20:00 Keith Iddon
         Re:Re:Re:We no longer have a 'Home' Housing Market05/01/15 17:37:00 Michael Brown
            Re:Re:Re:Re:We no longer have a 'Home' Housing Market05/01/15 17:49:00 Adrian Irving
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:We no longer have a 'Home' Housing Market05/01/15 17:54:00 Keith Iddon
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:We no longer have a 'Home' Housing Market05/01/15 17:54:00 Keith Iddon
            Re:Re:Re:Re:We no longer have a 'Home' Housing Market05/01/15 18:49:00 Richard Greenhough
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:We no longer have a 'Home' Housing Market05/01/15 19:11:00 Michael Brown
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:We no longer have a 'Home' Housing Market05/01/15 19:39:00 Richard Greenhough
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:We no longer have a 'Home' Housing Market05/01/15 19:57:00 Michael Brown
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:We no longer have a 'Home' Housing Market05/01/15 20:17:00 Michael Brown
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:We no longer have a 'Home' Housing Market05/01/15 20:32:00 Keith Iddon
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:We no longer have a 'Home' Housing Market06/01/15 09:42:00 Adrian Irving
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:We no longer have a 'Home' Housing Market05/01/15 22:10:00 Anne England
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:We no longer have a 'Home' Housing Market06/01/15 07:54:00 Steve Taylor
                        Two Myths About the Housing Market06/01/15 09:27:00 Francis Rowe
                           Re:Two Myths About the Housing Market06/01/15 09:31:00 Huw Burford-Taylor
                              Re:Re:Two Myths About the Housing Market06/01/15 10:21:00 Andrew Cumming
                           Re:Two Myths About the Housing Market06/01/15 10:13:00 Adrian Irving
                              A different view from a new new house owner06/01/15 11:07:00 Shelagh Lafferty
                                 Re:A different view from a new new house owner06/01/15 11:15:00 Andrew Cumming
                                    Re:Re:A different view from a new new house owner06/01/15 11:39:00 Julian Pavey
                                    Re:Re:A different view from a new new house owner06/01/15 14:38:00 Richard Greenhough
                                       Re:Re:Re:A different view from a new new house owner06/01/15 14:55:00 Andrew Cumming
                                       Re:Re:Re:A different view from a new new house owner06/01/15 15:01:00 Will Watson
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:A different view from a new new house owner06/01/15 15:15:00 Richard Greenhough
                                 Re:A different view from a new new house owner06/01/15 11:18:00 Adrian Irving
                                    Re:Re:A different view from a new new house owner06/01/15 11:33:00 Shelagh Lafferty
                                       First time buyer stats06/01/15 11:40:00 John Todd
                                          Re:First time buyer stats06/01/15 12:01:00 Adrian Irving
                                          Re:First time buyer stats06/01/15 12:09:00 Adam Beamish
                                             Re:Re:First time buyer stats06/01/15 12:37:00 Shelagh Lafferty
                                                Re:Re:Re:First time buyer stats06/01/15 13:09:00 Adrian Irving
                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:First time buyer stats06/01/15 13:33:00 Adrian Irving
                                                Re:Re:Re:First time buyer stats06/01/15 15:18:00 Richard Greenhough
                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:First time buyer stats06/01/15 17:47:00 Shelagh Lafferty
                                             Re:Re:First time buyer stats06/01/15 14:42:00 Richard Greenhough
   Tough on the youngsters06/01/15 12:37:00 Sean Wales
      Tower Hamlets Psycho06/01/15 13:08:00 Andrew Cumming
         Re:Tower Hamlets Psycho06/01/15 13:13:00 Andrew Cumming
            Re:Re:changes to housing policy needed.06/01/15 13:34:00 Mark Pattinson
               Don't blame foreigners, developers, the government06/01/15 14:03:00 Ken Munn
                  Re:Don't blame foreigners, developers, the government06/01/15 14:40:00 Adam Beamish
                     Re:Re:Don't blame foreigners, developers, the government06/01/15 16:26:00 Ken Munn
                        Re:Re:Re:Don't blame foreigners, developers, the government06/01/15 17:57:00 Richard Greenhough
               Re:Re:Re:changes to housing policy needed.06/01/15 14:04:00 Adrian Irving
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:changes to housing policy needed.06/01/15 14:23:00 Michael Brown
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:changes to housing policy needed.06/01/15 14:34:00 Keith Iddon
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:changes to housing policy needed.06/01/15 15:24:00 Richard Greenhough
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:changes to housing policy needed.06/01/15 15:39:00 Michael Brown
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:changes to housing policy needed.06/01/15 15:42:00 Will Watson
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:changes to housing policy needed.06/01/15 17:44:00 Michael Brown
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:changes to housing policy needed.06/01/15 17:48:00 Richard Greenhough
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:changes to housing policy needed.06/01/15 17:53:00 Michael Brown
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:changes to housing policy needed.06/01/15 18:01:00 Richard Greenhough
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:changes to housing policy needed.06/01/15 18:09:00 Michael Brown
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:changes to housing policy needed.06/01/15 18:20:00 Richard Greenhough
                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:changes to housing policy needed.06/01/15 18:26:00 Michael Brown
                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:changes to housing policy needed.06/01/15 18:34:00 Richard Greenhough
                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:changes to housing policy needed.06/01/15 18:40:00 Michael Brown
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:changes to housing policy needed.06/01/15 20:37:00 Steve Taylor
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:changes to housing policy needed.06/01/15 21:05:00 Keith Iddon
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:changes to housing policy needed.06/01/15 21:16:00 Will Watson
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:changes to housing policy needed.06/01/15 21:21:00 Keith Iddon
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:changes to housing policy needed.07/01/15 08:30:00 Michael Brown
                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:changes to housing policy needed.07/01/15 09:43:00 Adrian Irving
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:changes to housing policy needed.07/01/15 10:48:00 Vanessa Smith
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:changes to housing policy needed.07/01/15 11:14:00 Richard Greenhough
                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:changes to housing policy needed.07/01/15 11:17:00 Michael Brown
                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:changes to housing policy needed.07/01/15 11:32:00 Mark Milligan
                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:changes to housing policy needed.07/01/15 11:49:00 Keith Iddon
                                                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:changes to housing policy needed.07/01/15 11:59:00 Michael Brown
                                                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:changes to housing policy needed.07/01/15 12:13:00 Steve Taylor
                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:changes to housing policy needed.07/01/15 12:30:00 Anne England
                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:changes to housing policy needed.07/01/15 12:14:00 Will Watson
                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:changes to housing policy needed.07/01/15 12:16:00 Richard Greenhough
                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:changes to housing policy needed.07/01/15 12:46:00 Keith Iddon
                                                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:changes to housing policy needed.07/01/15 14:00:00 Richard Greenhough
                                                            Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:changes to housing policy needed.08/01/15 14:50:00 Vanessa Smith
                                                               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:changes to housing policy needed.08/01/15 15:03:00 Richard Greenhough
                                                                  Financial Times article09/01/15 13:01:00 Andrew Cumming
                                                                     Re:Financial Times article09/01/15 21:18:00 Kathleen Healy
                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:changes to housing policy needed.10/01/15 23:10:00 Steve Taylor
                                                      Apropos all of the above, a useful article from the BBC...13/01/15 09:19:00 Ken Munn
                                                         Financial Times - Britain needs to set its housing market in order13/01/15 09:57:00 Andrew Cumming

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