Alas, there are not 10,000 owners out there who want these dogs, or who are capable of dealing with the aftermath of poor breeding and bad handling. We are condemning some dogs to a permanent existence in kennels or putting huge amount of resources into dealing with the worst cases while other dogs cannot even get into kennels. We also need to consider seriously whether we should be importing dogs from abroad, even if conditions in their home countries are much worse than here, when we are not even making a dent in the number of dogs waiting for homes here. May rescue organisations impose unrealistic conditions on potential owners and so they go abroad or buy from websites or private breeders, fuelling the problems. Re-homed dogs quite often go through more than one new potential owner because it is not always easy to solve problems that have built up through a dog's life and the first rush of sentiment in "rescuing" a dog is not enough to see people through the difficulties. Still, the biggest cause of death in dogs in their first couple of years is extermination for "behavioural" problems that could often have been avoided by responsible breeding and handling in the first place. Muzzling a badly bred, badly handled dog is also not a solution. A really frustrated dog can remove a muzzle without much difficulty, however well-fitting and imposing further restrictions on an under-stimulated dog just makes the situation worse and is likely to merely postpone another incident. If we do not address the problems of over breeding and back street breeding while also putting real money into ensuring responsible dog ownership, there will continue to be thousands of dogs in miserable conditions and a "no-kill" policy will become a luxury that we cannot afford.

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Topic	Date Posted	Posted By
Dog attack in Grove Park	22/12/14 21:05:00	Janet Norman
Re:Dog attack in Grove Park	22/12/14 21:14:00	Georgina Flint
Re:Re:Dog attack in Grove Park	22/12/14 21:18:00	Julian Pavey
Re:Re:Dog attack in Grove Park	22/12/14 21:18:00	Loraine Pemberton
Re:Re:Re:Dog attack in Grove Park	22/12/14 21:34:00	Janet Norman
Re:Re:Re:Re:Dog attack in Grove Park	22/12/14 21:49:00	Julian Pavey
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Dog attack in Grove Park	22/12/14 21:50:00	Claire Moran
Re:Re:Re:Re:Dog attack in Grove Park	22/12/14 21:53:00	Andy Pease
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Dog attack in Grove Park	22/12/14 23:02:00	Stephen Thornton
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Dog attack in Grove Park	22/12/14 23:13:00	Janet Norman
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Dog attack in Grove Park	22/12/14 23:07:00	Janet Norman
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Dog attack in Grove Park	22/12/14 23:34:00	Andy Pease
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Dog attack in Grove Park	23/12/14 00:44:00	Madeleine Hazard
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Dog attack in Grove Park	23/12/14 10:24:00	Janet Norman
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Dog attack in Grove Park	23/12/14 10:49:00	Claire Moran
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Dog attack in Grove Park	23/12/14 11:03:00	Kim Rugg
Re:Dog attack in Grove Park	23/12/14 06:24:00	Gabriella Newbold
Re:Re:Dog attack in Grove Park	23/12/14 07:43:00	Kim Rugg
Re:Re:Re:Dog attack in Grove Park	23/12/14 08:07:00	Colin Jordan
Re:Re:Re:Re:Dog attack in Grove Park	23/12/14 09:14:00	Loraine Pemberton
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Dog attack in Grove Park	23/12/14 11:14:00	Graham Holley
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Dog attack in Grove Park	23/12/14 11:19:00	Helen Whitman
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Dog attack in Grove Park	23/12/14 11:24:00	Graham Holley
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Dog attack in Grove Park	23/12/14 11:43:00	Janet Norman
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Dog attack in Grove Park	23/12/14 11:51:00	Claire Moran
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Dog attack in Grove Park	23/12/14 12:32:00	Andy Pease
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Dog attack in Grove Park	23/12/14 22:06:00	Iain Saunders
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Dog attack in Grove Park	23/12/14 22:14:00	Graham Holley
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Dog attack in Grove Park	23/12/14 11:58:00	Andy Pease
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Dog attack in Grove Park	23/12/14 12:03:00	Janet Norman
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Dog attack in Grove Park	23/12/14 13:37:00	Carolyn Valder
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Dog attack in Grove Park	23/12/14 13:48:00	Janet Norman
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Dog attack in Grove Park	23/12/14 14:01:00	Andy Pease
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Dog attack in Grove Park	23/12/14 14:59:00	Janet Norman
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Dog attack in Grove Park	23/12/14 14:58:00	Andy Pease
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Dog attack in Grove Park	23/12/14 15:06:00	Janet Norman
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Dog attack in Grove Park	10/06/15 16:33:00	Loraine Pemberton
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Dog attack in Grove Park	24/12/14 00:10:00	Victoria Bridges
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Dog attack in Grove Park	24/12/14 08:19:00	Janet Norman
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Dog attack in Grove Park	23/12/14 19:32:00	Jean Ross
Re:Re:Re:Dog attack in Grove Park	24/12/14 02:20:00	Victoria Bridges
Re:Re:Re:Re:Dog attack in Grove Park	24/12/14 09:22:00	Charlotte Kasner
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Dog attack in Grove Park	24/12/14 10:44:00	Claire Moran
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Dog attack in Grove Park	26/12/14 18:51:00	Charlotte Kasner
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Dog attack in Grove Park	27/12/14 15:44:00	Anne Meagher
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Dog attack in Grove Park	28/12/14 08:23:00	Andy Pease
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Dog attack in Grove Park	28/12/14 05:16:00	Dan Murphy
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Dog attack in Grove Park	11/06/15 11:09:00	Will Watson
Re:Dog attack in Grove Park	28/12/14 12:46:00	Rhona Valentine
Re:Dog attack in Grove Park	28/12/14 12:55:00	Lou Valdini
Re:Re:Dog attack in Grove Park	28/12/14 13:06:00	Helle Kaiser-Nielsen
Re:Re:Re:Dog attack in Grove Park	28/12/14 13:55:00	Andy Pease
Re:Re:Re:Re:Dog attack in Grove Park	28/12/14 14:04:00	Loraine Pemberton
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Dog attack in Grove Park	29/12/14 09:31:00	Maggie Dodge
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Dog attack in Grove Park	07/01/15 16:55:00	Paul Allen
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Dog attack in Grove Park	07/01/15 17:03:00	Janet Norman
Re:Re:Dog attack in Grove Park	09/01/16 23:19:00	Alie Griffiths
Update.	04/02/15 17:27:00	Janet Norman
Re:Update.	05/02/15 09:13:00	Rhona Valentine
Re:Re:Update.	05/02/15 14:38:00	Graham Holley
Re:Re:Update.	06/02/15 10:59:00	Janet Norman
Re:Re:Re:Update.	08/02/15 21:46:00	S Powell
Court case took place on 28/5, re:muzzling order.	30/05/15 11:45:00	Janet Norman
Re:Court case took place on 28/5, re:muzzling order.	30/05/15 11:53:00	Claire Moran
Re:Re:Court case took place on 28/5, re:muzzling order.	30/05/15 13:38:00	Andy Pease
Re:Re:Re:Court case took place on 28/5, re:muzzling order.	30/05/15 15:05:00	S Powell
Re:Court case took place on 28/5, re:muzzling order.	09/06/15 12:46:00	Anne Meagher
Re:Re:Court case took place on 28/5, re:muzzling order.	09/06/15 14:07:00	Andy Pease
Re:Re:Court case took place on 28/5, re:muzzling order.	09/06/15 14:28:00	Janet Norman
Re:Re:Re:Court case took place on 28/5, re:muzzling order.	09/06/15 14:51:00	Janet Norman
Re:Re:Re:Re:Court case took place on 28/5, re:muzzling order.	09/06/15 16:59:00	Andy Pease
Re:Court case took place on 28/5, re:muzzling order.	09/01/16 23:18:00	Alie Griffiths
Re:Dog attack in Grove Park	31/05/15 00:34:00	Adrian Ellis
Re:Re:Dog attack in Grove Park	31/05/15 11:39:00	Madeleine Hazard
Re:Re:Re:Dog attack in Grove Park	31/05/15 11:58:00	Tracey Brown
Re:Re:Re:Re:Dog attack in Grove Park	31/05/15 14:03:00	Victoria Bridges
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Dog attack in Grove Park	09/06/15 13:05:00	Elizabeth Ross
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Dog attack in Grove Park	09/06/15 13:19:00	Anne Meagher
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Dog attack in Grove Park	09/06/15 13:22:00	Elizabeth Ross
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Dog attack in Grove Park	09/06/15 14:43:00	Catherine Steele
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Dog attack in Grove Park	09/06/15 15:38:00	Anne Meagher
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Dog attack in Grove Park	09/06/15 17:15:00	Andy Pease
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Dog attack in Grove Park	10/06/15 09:46:00	Janet Norman
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Dog attack in Grove Park	10/06/15 11:26:00	Andy Pease
PM sent Andy - n/m	10/06/15 13:48:00	Janet Norman
Re:PM sent Andy - n/m	10/06/15 14:00:00	Anne Meagher
Re:Re:PM sent Andy - n/m	10/06/15 16:12:00	Andy Pease
Re:Re:PM sent Andy - n/m	11/06/15 10:55:00	Helle Kaiser-Nielsen
Re:Re:Re:PM sent Andy - n/m	11/06/15 10:59:00	Claire Moran
Re:Re:Re: what does the owner look like?	11/06/15 11:10:00	Loraine Pemberton
Re:Re:Re:Re: what does the owner look like?	12/06/15 14:13:00	Janet Norman
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: what does the owner look like?	12/06/15 14:57:00	Marjan Lee
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: what does the owner look like?	15/06/15 13:52:00	Lou Valdini
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: what does the owner look like?	15/06/15 14:41:00	Andy Pease
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: what does the owner look like?	15/06/15 17:06:00	Phil Kay
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: what does the owner look like?	16/06/15 11:02:00	Janet Norman
Re:Dog attack in Grove Park	20/10/15 18:41:00	Catherine Steele
Re:Re:Dog attack in Grove Park	07/01/16 11:21:00	Janet Norman
Re:Re:Re:Dog attack in Grove Park	08/01/16 16:17:00	Graham Holley

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