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Topic: Re:Re:Re:Expanded CPZ
Posted by: Caroline J Simonds
Date/Time: 06/10/14 12:29:00

The main argument from the people who now live in a CPZ seems to be how wonderful it is now that no one else is allowed to park in 'their street'. And Andy, to respond to your comment addressed to me, about how anti CPZ people north of the A4 are now thinking that it is a good thingÖÖ well Iím sure that most people in CPZís think that they are great Ė but what about the rest of the area that has to suffer? I personally would feel uncomfortable looking out on a nice empty street (although to be honest, looking at our road in the evenings or weekends, Iím not too sure that our street will be that empty after a CPZ has reduced the available parking spaces) knowing that neighbouring streets were suffering and people were finding it difficult to get to work in this area.
Am I being unfair to say that the main pro CPZ argument seems to me to be about the desire for uncluttered streets and the ability to oneís car with ease, whilst the main anti CPZ argument seems to me to be about the undemocratic imposition of something that 94% of people didnít want and the detrimental effect that it will have on other people because it has been ill thought out?
I donít want to enter into a discussion about the need for a north of the A4 CPZ because I donít know whether it was really necessary or not, but suspect that it was due to proximity of shops, business parks and stations. However, It is a shame that better use wasnít made of the surplus parking so that more commuter/shopper parking couldnít be provided in the streets that now seem to be largely empty as that might have reduced the impact upon Grove Park, but this debate is about whether or not Grove Park needed a CPZ and 94% of residents were against it, even in the streets that you mention, such as Wolseley Gardens, St Maryís Grove and Burnaby Gardens.
I think that many of us are particularly anti the CPZ because this street by street approach is so ill thought out. Even the original scheme left islands of streets without a CPZ for whom life would become intolerable. As I have said before, what we really need is a more imaginative parking strategy for the WHOLE of Chiswick, and failing that at least the WHOLE of Grove Park.
Some people might WANT a CPZ, but did we/do we really NEED one?
And as someone who crosses Park Road every day with a dog, I would say that the traffic definitely seems to move faster than it used to, and the park crossing in Park Road is probably more dangerous than ever because there are nearly always parked cars there so visibility is still bad and traffic is moving faster.

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TopicDate PostedPosted By
Expanded CPZ30/09/14 18:00:00 John Hickman
   Re:Expanded CPZ30/09/14 18:15:00 Richard Greenhough
      Re:Re:Expanded CPZ30/09/14 18:21:00 Russell Pearson
         Re:Re:Re:Expanded CPZ30/09/14 18:25:00 Michael Brown
   Re:Expanded CPZ30/09/14 18:25:00 Caroline J Simonds
      Re:Re:Expanded CPZ30/09/14 21:24:00 Marjan Lee
   Re:Expanded CPZ01/10/14 07:14:00 Brendan McCarthy
      Re:Re:Expanded CPZ01/10/14 07:43:00 Russell Pearson
      Re:Re:Expanded CPZ01/10/14 07:48:00 Susan Jennifer Thackray
         Re:Re:Re:Expanded CPZ01/10/14 08:51:00 Colin Jordan
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Expanded CPZ01/10/14 09:37:00 Paul Allen
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Expanded CPZ01/10/14 09:54:00 Sam Reardon Smith
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Expanded CPZ01/10/14 10:58:00 Janine Jarvis
                     Re:Expanded CPZ01/10/14 11:43:00 Paul Allen
      Re:Re:Expanded CPZ01/10/14 12:20:00 Dan Murphy
         Re:Re:Re:Expanded CPZ01/10/14 12:39:00 Trudie Fuller
         Note to Dan01/10/14 14:24:00 Brendan McCarthy
            Re:Note to Dan01/10/14 14:29:00 Dan Murphy
      Re:Re:Expanded CPZ01/10/14 12:42:00 Richard Greenhough
         Re:Re:Re:Expanded CPZ01/10/14 13:06:00 Janine Jarvis
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Expanded CPZ01/10/14 13:21:00 Dan Murphy
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Expanded CPZ01/10/14 13:23:00 Trudie Fuller
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Expanded CPZ01/10/14 13:42:00 Trudie Fuller
   Re:Expanded CPZ01/10/14 14:04:00 David Chivers
      Re:Re:Expanded CPZ01/10/14 14:08:00 Paul Allen
         Re:Re:Re:Expanded CPZ01/10/14 14:17:00 Russell Pearson
         Re:Re:Re:Expanded CPZ01/10/14 14:23:00 David Chivers
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Expanded CPZ01/10/14 14:30:00 John Hickman
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Expanded CPZ01/10/14 15:07:00 David Chivers
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Expanded CPZ01/10/14 15:18:00 Dan Murphy
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Expanded CPZ01/10/14 14:32:00 Trudie Fuller
      Re:Re:Expanded CPZ01/10/14 14:30:00 Dan Murphy
         Re:Re:Re:Expanded CPZ01/10/14 14:46:00 Lucy Dunkerley
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Expanded CPZ01/10/14 14:53:00 Dan Murphy
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Expanded CPZ01/10/14 15:06:00 Trudie Fuller
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Expanded CPZ01/10/14 15:07:00 Janine Jarvis
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Expanded CPZ01/10/14 15:21:00 Paul Allen
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Expanded CPZ01/10/14 15:26:00 Dan Murphy
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Expanded CPZ01/10/14 15:27:00 Russell Pearson
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Expanded CPZ01/10/14 15:29:00 Dan Murphy
                           Re:Expanded CPZ01/10/14 15:33:00 Paul Allen
                              Re:Re:Expanded CPZ01/10/14 15:44:00 Dan Murphy
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Expanded CPZ01/10/14 15:38:00 Loraine Pemberton
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Expanded CPZ01/10/14 15:47:00 Dan Murphy
                              Re:Expanded CPZ01/10/14 16:19:00 Paul Allen
                                 Re:Re:Expanded CPZ01/10/14 17:05:00 Dan Murphy
                                    Re:Re:Re:Expanded CPZ01/10/14 17:13:00 Ray White
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Expanded CPZ01/10/14 18:09:00 Trudie Fuller
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Expanded CPZ01/10/14 18:37:00 John Hickman
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Expanded CPZ02/10/14 18:10:00 Caroline J Simonds
                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Expanded CPZ02/10/14 19:43:00 Sam Reardon Smith
                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Expanded CPZ02/10/14 19:51:00 Ray White
                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Expanded CPZ02/10/14 20:22:00 Trudie Fuller
                                                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Expanded CPZ02/10/14 20:56:00 Tanya Baker
                                                            Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Expanded CPZ02/10/14 21:12:00 Andy Pease
                                                               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Expanded CPZ02/10/14 22:32:00 Lucy Dunkerley
                                                               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Expanded CPZ03/10/14 07:27:00 Dan Murphy
                                                                  DAN, THIS ONE'S FOR YOU.03/10/14 09:29:00 Andy Pease
                                                                     Re:DAN, THIS ONE'S FOR YOU.03/10/14 09:45:00 Dan Murphy
                                                                        Re:Re:DAN, THIS ONE'S FOR YOU.03/10/14 09:52:00 Dan Murphy
                                                               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Expanded CPZ03/10/14 07:45:00 Madeleine Hazard
                                                               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Expanded CPZ03/10/14 09:02:00 Richard Greenhough
                                                                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Expanded CPZ03/10/14 09:41:00 Andy Pease
                                                                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Expanded CPZ03/10/14 10:46:00 Richard Greenhough
                                                                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Expanded CPZ03/10/14 13:08:00 Andy Pease
                                                                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Expanded CPZ03/10/14 14:28:00 David Chivers
                                                                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Expanded CPZ03/10/14 17:05:00 Richard Greenhough
                                                                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Expanded CPZ03/10/14 09:42:00 Dan Murphy
                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Expanded CPZ02/10/14 21:14:00 Caroline J Simonds
                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Expanded CPZ02/10/14 21:52:00 bobby osborne
                                                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Expanded CPZ02/10/14 23:41:00 Paul Allen
                                                            The council's reason for their new consultation03/10/14 13:38:00 Sam Reardon Smith
                                                               Re:The council's reason for their new consultation03/10/14 13:45:00 Richard Greenhough
                                                                  Re:Re:The council's reason for their new consultation03/10/14 14:36:00 Russell Pearson
                                                                     Re:Re:Re:The council's reason for their new consultation03/10/14 18:41:00 David Chivers
                                                                        Re:Re:Re:Re:The council's reason for their new consultation03/10/14 21:51:00 Della Bramley
                                                                        Re:Re:Re:Re:The council's reason for their new consultation03/10/14 23:03:00 Patrick N OConnor
                                                                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The council's reason for their new consultation04/10/14 07:36:00 Paul Pryce
                                                                        Re:Re:Re:Re:The council's reason for their new consultation04/10/14 09:17:00 Dan Murphy
                                                                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The council's reason for their new consultation04/10/14 14:34:00 Caroline J Simonds
                                                                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The council's reason for their new consultation04/10/14 14:54:00 John Hickman
                                                                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The council's reason for their new consultation04/10/14 18:37:00 Richard Greenhough
                                                                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The council's reason for their new consultation04/10/14 19:12:00 Andy Pease
                                                                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The council's reason for their new consultation04/10/14 20:01:00 Richard Greenhough
                                                                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The council's reason for their new consultation04/10/14 22:18:00 Dan Murphy
   Re:Expanded CPZ05/10/14 09:30:00 Stephan Deare-Bilham
      Re:Re:Expanded CPZ05/10/14 09:57:00 Dan Murphy
         Re:Re:Re:Expanded CPZ05/10/14 10:41:00 Lou Valdini
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Expanded CPZ05/10/14 16:25:00 David Chivers
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Expanded CPZ05/10/14 16:52:00 Brian Coyle
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Expanded CPZ05/10/14 17:20:00 Trudie Fuller
               Expanded CPZ @ David Chivers05/10/14 18:49:00 Owen Highley
                  Re:Expanded CPZ @ Owen05/10/14 19:47:00 Richard Greenhough
                     Re:Re:Expanded CPZ @ Owen06/10/14 09:32:00 Trudie Fuller
                        Re:Re:Re:Expanded CPZ @ Owen06/10/14 09:46:00 Sam Hearn
                  Re:Expanded CPZ @ David Chivers06/10/14 09:45:00 Dan Murphy
                     Re:Re:Expanded CPZ @ David Chivers06/10/14 09:52:00 Sam Hearn
                        Re:LBH CPZ Policy Change06/10/14 10:40:00 Richard Greenhough
                           Re:Re:LBH CPZ Policy Change06/10/14 11:47:00 Dan Murphy
                              Re:Re:Re:LBH CPZ Policy Change06/10/14 13:39:00 Richard Greenhough
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:LBH CPZ Policy Change07/10/14 12:34:00 Caroline J Simonds
         Re:Re:Re:Expanded CPZ06/10/14 12:29:00 Caroline J Simonds
   Re:Expanded CPZ06/10/14 11:52:00 Helen Maitland
      Re:Re:Expanded CPZ06/10/14 12:21:00 Dan Murphy
         Re:Re:Re:Expanded CPZ06/10/14 12:29:00 Maggie Dodge
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Expanded CPZ06/10/14 12:40:00 Dan Murphy
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Expanded CPZ06/10/14 12:43:00 Marjan Lee
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Expanded CPZ06/10/14 12:48:00 Dan Murphy
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Expanded CPZ06/10/14 12:53:00 Marjan Lee
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Expanded CPZ07/10/14 12:52:00 Trudie Fuller
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Expanded CPZ07/10/14 12:58:00 Dan Murphy
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Expanded CPZ07/10/14 16:47:00 Caroline J Simonds
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Expanded CPZ07/10/14 17:10:00 Dan Murphy

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