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Topic: Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The council's reason for their new consultation
Posted by: Caroline J Simonds
Date/Time: 04/10/14 14:34:00

A lot of good points have been made, especially by you Dan, and given that the new CPZ is not covering the areas surrounding Chiswick Station, it is clearly NOT about addressing all commuter parking, as Patrick points out.

There clearly was a problem with parking in central Chiswick, around the shops, business parks and stations, but the ill-thought-out CPZ has led to many half empty streets (which Iím sure many of those residents think is wonderful), whilst commuters/workers and people on the fringes of the CPZ suffer. I do not for a moment agree with Davids comment that the antiís think ďparking controls north of the A4 are fine and quite acceptable even when they displace commuter parking on to roads on the edge of Grove Park but any attempt to introduce controls south of the A4 are anti-democratic and to be opposed at all costs - because the displacement might just affect where they liveĒ. Parking controls north of the A4 might have been necessary, but in my opinion a sledge hammer was used to crack a nut. Yes Dan apologised to Andy for supposing that Andy lived in Park Road, but I donít think that he, or anyone else, has said Ďwell thatís OK if it isnít in our patch we just donít want one hereí. Iím also not too sure why Andy got involved in a debate about parking in GP as I assume it doesnít affect him, but it is a free country so he is entitled to comment, it just confused some of us, including Dan! What Dan seemed to be saying, and I agree, is that if it was necessary north of the A4, and the residents wanted it, then fine, but south of the A4, over 90% or the residents DONíT WANT one, and most of those residents probably feel that we donít need one. Iíd probably be quite happy to pay £60 a year to park outside my house (if only it were that simple!) BUT in my opinion that is selfish as other people would suffer when actually I can usually find somewhere within 50 to 100 meters even when the road is busy (which thanks to Park Rd CPZ it usually is), so I donít really need one and I certainly donít want one because of all the associated problems that we have already debated Ė there is a subtle but important difference between wanting and needing.

It seems to me that the main problem is that the council is imposing traditional CPZís on the area without any intelligent thought or proper research. What we need is for someone to think outside the box and come up with a better solution FOR THE WHOLE OF CHISWICK where the needs of residents and commuter/workers are all met. In many areas there is more than enough parking to go around but it is not being utilised and this situation is about to get worse if they expand the CPZ piecemeal across Grove Park. Does anyone in the traffic department have a brain? OK stupid question, or perhaps they just donít care?

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TopicDate PostedPosted By
Expanded CPZ30/09/14 18:00:00 John Hickman
   Re:Expanded CPZ30/09/14 18:15:00 Richard Greenhough
      Re:Re:Expanded CPZ30/09/14 18:21:00 Russell Pearson
         Re:Re:Re:Expanded CPZ30/09/14 18:25:00 Michael Brown
   Re:Expanded CPZ30/09/14 18:25:00 Caroline J Simonds
      Re:Re:Expanded CPZ30/09/14 21:24:00 Marjan Lee
   Re:Expanded CPZ01/10/14 07:14:00 Brendan McCarthy
      Re:Re:Expanded CPZ01/10/14 07:43:00 Russell Pearson
      Re:Re:Expanded CPZ01/10/14 07:48:00 Susan Jennifer Thackray
         Re:Re:Re:Expanded CPZ01/10/14 08:51:00 Colin Jordan
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Expanded CPZ01/10/14 09:37:00 Paul Allen
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Expanded CPZ01/10/14 09:54:00 Sam Reardon Smith
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Expanded CPZ01/10/14 10:58:00 Janine Jarvis
                     Re:Expanded CPZ01/10/14 11:43:00 Paul Allen
      Re:Re:Expanded CPZ01/10/14 12:20:00 Dan Murphy
         Re:Re:Re:Expanded CPZ01/10/14 12:39:00 Trudie Fuller
         Note to Dan01/10/14 14:24:00 Brendan McCarthy
            Re:Note to Dan01/10/14 14:29:00 Dan Murphy
      Re:Re:Expanded CPZ01/10/14 12:42:00 Richard Greenhough
         Re:Re:Re:Expanded CPZ01/10/14 13:06:00 Janine Jarvis
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Expanded CPZ01/10/14 13:21:00 Dan Murphy
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Expanded CPZ01/10/14 13:23:00 Trudie Fuller
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Expanded CPZ01/10/14 13:42:00 Trudie Fuller
   Re:Expanded CPZ01/10/14 14:04:00 David Chivers
      Re:Re:Expanded CPZ01/10/14 14:08:00 Paul Allen
         Re:Re:Re:Expanded CPZ01/10/14 14:17:00 Russell Pearson
         Re:Re:Re:Expanded CPZ01/10/14 14:23:00 David Chivers
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Expanded CPZ01/10/14 14:30:00 John Hickman
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Expanded CPZ01/10/14 15:07:00 David Chivers
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Expanded CPZ01/10/14 15:18:00 Dan Murphy
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Expanded CPZ01/10/14 14:32:00 Trudie Fuller
      Re:Re:Expanded CPZ01/10/14 14:30:00 Dan Murphy
         Re:Re:Re:Expanded CPZ01/10/14 14:46:00 Lucy Dunkerley
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Expanded CPZ01/10/14 14:53:00 Dan Murphy
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Expanded CPZ01/10/14 15:06:00 Trudie Fuller
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Expanded CPZ01/10/14 15:07:00 Janine Jarvis
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Expanded CPZ01/10/14 15:21:00 Paul Allen
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Expanded CPZ01/10/14 15:26:00 Dan Murphy
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Expanded CPZ01/10/14 15:27:00 Russell Pearson
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Expanded CPZ01/10/14 15:29:00 Dan Murphy
                           Re:Expanded CPZ01/10/14 15:33:00 Paul Allen
                              Re:Re:Expanded CPZ01/10/14 15:44:00 Dan Murphy
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Expanded CPZ01/10/14 15:38:00 Loraine Pemberton
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Expanded CPZ01/10/14 15:47:00 Dan Murphy
                              Re:Expanded CPZ01/10/14 16:19:00 Paul Allen
                                 Re:Re:Expanded CPZ01/10/14 17:05:00 Dan Murphy
                                    Re:Re:Re:Expanded CPZ01/10/14 17:13:00 Ray White
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Expanded CPZ01/10/14 18:09:00 Trudie Fuller
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Expanded CPZ01/10/14 18:37:00 John Hickman
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Expanded CPZ02/10/14 18:10:00 Caroline J Simonds
                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Expanded CPZ02/10/14 19:43:00 Sam Reardon Smith
                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Expanded CPZ02/10/14 19:51:00 Ray White
                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Expanded CPZ02/10/14 20:22:00 Trudie Fuller
                                                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Expanded CPZ02/10/14 20:56:00 Tanya Baker
                                                            Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Expanded CPZ02/10/14 21:12:00 Andy Pease
                                                               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Expanded CPZ02/10/14 22:32:00 Lucy Dunkerley
                                                               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Expanded CPZ03/10/14 07:27:00 Dan Murphy
                                                                  DAN, THIS ONE'S FOR YOU.03/10/14 09:29:00 Andy Pease
                                                                     Re:DAN, THIS ONE'S FOR YOU.03/10/14 09:45:00 Dan Murphy
                                                                        Re:Re:DAN, THIS ONE'S FOR YOU.03/10/14 09:52:00 Dan Murphy
                                                               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Expanded CPZ03/10/14 07:45:00 Madeleine Hazard
                                                               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Expanded CPZ03/10/14 09:02:00 Richard Greenhough
                                                                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Expanded CPZ03/10/14 09:41:00 Andy Pease
                                                                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Expanded CPZ03/10/14 10:46:00 Richard Greenhough
                                                                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Expanded CPZ03/10/14 13:08:00 Andy Pease
                                                                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Expanded CPZ03/10/14 14:28:00 David Chivers
                                                                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Expanded CPZ03/10/14 17:05:00 Richard Greenhough
                                                                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Expanded CPZ03/10/14 09:42:00 Dan Murphy
                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Expanded CPZ02/10/14 21:14:00 Caroline J Simonds
                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Expanded CPZ02/10/14 21:52:00 bobby osborne
                                                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Expanded CPZ02/10/14 23:41:00 Paul Allen
                                                            The council's reason for their new consultation03/10/14 13:38:00 Sam Reardon Smith
                                                               Re:The council's reason for their new consultation03/10/14 13:45:00 Richard Greenhough
                                                                  Re:Re:The council's reason for their new consultation03/10/14 14:36:00 Russell Pearson
                                                                     Re:Re:Re:The council's reason for their new consultation03/10/14 18:41:00 David Chivers
                                                                        Re:Re:Re:Re:The council's reason for their new consultation03/10/14 21:51:00 Della Bramley
                                                                        Re:Re:Re:Re:The council's reason for their new consultation03/10/14 23:03:00 Patrick N OConnor
                                                                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The council's reason for their new consultation04/10/14 07:36:00 Paul Pryce
                                                                        Re:Re:Re:Re:The council's reason for their new consultation04/10/14 09:17:00 Dan Murphy
                                                                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The council's reason for their new consultation04/10/14 14:34:00 Caroline J Simonds
                                                                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The council's reason for their new consultation04/10/14 14:54:00 John Hickman
                                                                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The council's reason for their new consultation04/10/14 18:37:00 Richard Greenhough
                                                                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The council's reason for their new consultation04/10/14 19:12:00 Andy Pease
                                                                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The council's reason for their new consultation04/10/14 20:01:00 Richard Greenhough
                                                                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The council's reason for their new consultation04/10/14 22:18:00 Dan Murphy
   Re:Expanded CPZ05/10/14 09:30:00 Stephan Deare-Bilham
      Re:Re:Expanded CPZ05/10/14 09:57:00 Dan Murphy
         Re:Re:Re:Expanded CPZ05/10/14 10:41:00 Lou Valdini
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Expanded CPZ05/10/14 16:25:00 David Chivers
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Expanded CPZ05/10/14 16:52:00 Brian Coyle
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Expanded CPZ05/10/14 17:20:00 Trudie Fuller
               Expanded CPZ @ David Chivers05/10/14 18:49:00 Owen Highley
                  Re:Expanded CPZ @ Owen05/10/14 19:47:00 Richard Greenhough
                     Re:Re:Expanded CPZ @ Owen06/10/14 09:32:00 Trudie Fuller
                        Re:Re:Re:Expanded CPZ @ Owen06/10/14 09:46:00 Sam Hearn
                  Re:Expanded CPZ @ David Chivers06/10/14 09:45:00 Dan Murphy
                     Re:Re:Expanded CPZ @ David Chivers06/10/14 09:52:00 Sam Hearn
                        Re:LBH CPZ Policy Change06/10/14 10:40:00 Richard Greenhough
                           Re:Re:LBH CPZ Policy Change06/10/14 11:47:00 Dan Murphy
                              Re:Re:Re:LBH CPZ Policy Change06/10/14 13:39:00 Richard Greenhough
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:LBH CPZ Policy Change07/10/14 12:34:00 Caroline J Simonds
         Re:Re:Re:Expanded CPZ06/10/14 12:29:00 Caroline J Simonds
   Re:Expanded CPZ06/10/14 11:52:00 Helen Maitland
      Re:Re:Expanded CPZ06/10/14 12:21:00 Dan Murphy
         Re:Re:Re:Expanded CPZ06/10/14 12:29:00 Maggie Dodge
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Expanded CPZ06/10/14 12:40:00 Dan Murphy
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Expanded CPZ06/10/14 12:43:00 Marjan Lee
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Expanded CPZ06/10/14 12:48:00 Dan Murphy
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Expanded CPZ06/10/14 12:53:00 Marjan Lee
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Expanded CPZ07/10/14 12:52:00 Trudie Fuller
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Expanded CPZ07/10/14 12:58:00 Dan Murphy
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Expanded CPZ07/10/14 16:47:00 Caroline J Simonds
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Expanded CPZ07/10/14 17:10:00 Dan Murphy

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