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Topic: Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re : Cyclists Dismount
Posted by: Al Webber
Date/Time: 18/09/14 23:41:00

The route along the river towards Hammersmith comes up as a cycle route if you go on the TFL website.  People are encouraged to cycle there by the authorities. If it's a cycle route surely you need to be able to cycle on it!

What's the point of designating something as a cycle route and then tell people to get off and walk?  There needs to be some joined up thinking.  In the rush hour, people are in a hurry to get to work and don't want to lose 3 minutes getting off and walking at multiple points.  Why do people run up the steps at Turnham Green and shove people out of the way when there will be another train along in a few minutes.  It's the same motivation behind it.  People want to get to and from work a bit quicker.

Having said that, I tried that route once, got off and walked in the correct places and have never used it again.  I just stick to the roads.  It's far quicker.  Probably safer as well.  Cars are a lot more predictable than pedestrians.  I've had 3 collisions with pedestrians and none with a moving car.  (I have been doored by someone getting out of a stationary one).

It's not just signs.  You get other really stupid things as well.  There are a huge number of cycle lanes painted on the road in the door zone of cars.  If you follow the advice to cycle a door's width from parked cars like you are supposed to then you wind up not using the cycle lane at all sometimes.

The lack of joined up thought that goes into cycle facilities is frightening.  Look through the cycle facility of the month history on here:

I always use the road when I need to cycle along Strand on the Green but the lack of room for cyclists argument that is used doesn't really stand up.  When I'm on my bike my shoulders are the widest part.  I'm no wider on the bike than I am on foot.  It's obvious that cyclists barrelling along there at 20mph is unsafe but using a completely spurious argument to ban cycling doesn't help people respect it.

Having said that, there are seriously daft things that affect motorists as well.  20 mph speed limits on A roads like the one on the A308 come to mind.  I'm sure that everyone can think of some daft junction layouts.

There needs to be a lot more common sense from all parties - cyclists, motorists (and their passengers - one of whom opened a car door into a cycle lane in front of me today), pedestrians, and the people who design the roads / paths etc..

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Question for Cyclists17/09/14 11:41:00 David Thorpe
   Re:Question for Cyclists17/09/14 11:50:00 Oliver Gibb
      Re:Re:Question for Cyclists17/09/14 11:55:00 David Thorpe
         Re:Re:Re:Question for Cyclists17/09/14 12:09:00 Oliver Gibb
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Question for Cyclists17/09/14 13:31:00 Nick Mason
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Question for Cyclists17/09/14 13:43:00 Jonathan Bingham
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Question for Cyclists17/09/14 15:11:00 Pete Mayes
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Question for Cyclists17/09/14 13:56:00 David Thorpe
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Question for Cyclists17/09/14 14:12:00 Will Watson
      Re:Re:Question for Cyclists17/09/14 12:06:00 Nick Mason
         Re:Re:Re:Question for Cyclists17/09/14 13:31:00 Michael Brown
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Question for Cyclists17/09/14 13:44:00 Charlotte Kasner
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Question for Cyclists17/09/14 14:41:00 Jonathan Bingham
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Question for Cyclists17/09/14 14:03:00 Richard Greenhough
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Question for Cyclists17/09/14 14:59:00 Andrew Cumming
   Re:Question for Cyclists17/09/14 13:34:00 Adrian Irving
   Re:Question for Cyclists17/09/14 13:36:00 James Robinson
      Re:Re:Question for Cyclists17/09/14 13:50:00 James Robinson
   Re:Question for Cyclists17/09/14 13:44:00 Sean Wales
      Re:Re:Question for Cyclists17/09/14 14:11:00 Bob Guyett
         Re:Re:Re:Question for Cyclists18/09/14 12:33:00 Kim Rugg
      Re:Re:Question for Cyclists17/09/14 14:13:00 David Roberts
         Re:Re:Re:Question for Cyclists17/09/14 14:43:00 Richard Greenhough
   Re:Question for Cyclists17/09/14 14:14:00 Andy Rooney
   Re:Question for Cyclists17/09/14 14:32:00 Adrian Irving
      Re:Re:Question for Cyclists17/09/14 14:55:00 Pete Mayes
         Re:Re:Re:Question for Cyclists17/09/14 14:57:00 James Robinson
         Re:Re:Re:Question for Cyclists17/09/14 15:05:00 Pete Mayes
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Question for Cyclists17/09/14 15:33:00 Richard Greenhough
         Re:Re:Re:Question for Cyclists17/09/14 15:06:00 David Thorpe
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Question for Cyclists17/09/14 15:20:00 Pete Mayes
         Re:Re:Re:Question for Cyclists17/09/14 15:49:00 Nick Mason
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Question for Cyclists17/09/14 15:55:00 Pete Mayes
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Question for Cyclists17/09/14 16:06:00 Nick Mason
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Question for Cyclists17/09/14 16:11:00 Pete Mayes
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Question for Cyclists17/09/14 17:11:00 Andy Brown
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Question for Cyclists17/09/14 18:22:00 Michael Brown
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Question for Cyclists17/09/14 18:51:00 David Thorpe
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Question for Cyclists18/09/14 10:07:00 Jonathan Bingham
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Question for Cyclists18/09/14 11:09:00 Will Watson
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Question for Cyclists18/09/14 14:11:00 David Thorpe
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Question for Cyclists18/09/14 14:26:00 Chris Blishen
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Question for Cyclists18/09/14 14:28:00 Will Watson
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Question for Cyclists18/09/14 14:57:00 Chris Blishen
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Question for Cyclists18/09/14 15:34:00 Jonathan Bingham
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Question for Cyclists18/09/14 15:48:00 David Thorpe
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Question for Cyclists18/09/14 16:25:00 Jonathan Bingham
                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Question for Cyclists18/09/14 17:39:00 David Thorpe
                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Question for Cyclists19/09/14 09:50:00 Jonathan Bingham
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Question for Cyclists18/09/14 17:31:00 Richard Greenhough
                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Question for Cyclists18/09/14 17:37:00 Jonathan Bingham
                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Question for Cyclists18/09/14 17:42:00 David Thorpe
                        anuver apology from Maisie....17/09/14 18:23:00 Stuart Kerr
                           Re:anuver apology from Maisie....17/09/14 18:35:00 Pete Mayes
                           The iSign17/09/14 18:36:00 Michael Brown
                              Bruno Bozetto.....17/09/14 21:37:00 Jim Lawes
   Re:Question for Cyclists17/09/14 23:23:00 David Marles
      Re:Re:Question for Cyclists18/09/14 08:35:00 James Robinson
         Re:Re:Re:Question for Cyclists18/09/14 09:02:00 Maggie Dodge
   Re : Cyclists Dismount18/09/14 09:15:00 Richard Greenhough
      Re:Re : Cyclists Dismount18/09/14 11:45:00 Dave Robertson
         Re:Re:Re : Cyclists Dismount18/09/14 11:51:00 Richard Greenhough
            Re:Re:Re:Re : Cyclists Dismount18/09/14 12:21:00 Chris Blishen
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re : Cyclists Dismount18/09/14 13:19:00 James Robinson
            Re:Re:Re:Re : Cyclists Dismount18/09/14 12:26:00 Dave Robertson
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re : Cyclists Dismount18/09/14 13:10:00 Jonathan Bingham
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re : Cyclists Dismount18/09/14 13:30:00 Dave Robertson
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re : Cyclists Dismount18/09/14 13:42:00 Chris Blishen
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re : Cyclists Dismount18/09/14 13:52:00 Richard Greenhough
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re : Cyclists Dismount18/09/14 14:02:00 Michael Brown
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re : Cyclists Dismount18/09/14 14:04:00 Keith Iddon
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re : Cyclists Dismount18/09/14 14:06:00 Richard Greenhough
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re : Cyclists Dismount18/09/14 16:23:00 Michael Brown
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re : Cyclists Dismount18/09/14 23:41:00 Al Webber
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re : Cyclists Dismount19/09/14 08:48:00 James Robinson
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re : Cyclists Dismount19/09/14 09:11:00 Colin Jordan
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re : Cyclists Dismount19/09/14 10:09:00 Andrew Parkinson
   Re:Question for Cyclists19/09/14 10:22:00 Chris Blishen
      Re:Re:Question for Cyclists19/09/14 11:07:00 Chris Blishen
         Re:Re:Re:Question for Cyclists19/09/14 11:23:00 Will Watson
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Question for Cyclists19/09/14 11:28:00 Chris Blishen
   Re:Question for Cyclists19/09/14 14:35:00 John McDonnell
      Re:Re:Question for Cyclists19/09/14 14:57:00 Richard Greenhough
         Re:Re:Re:Question for Cyclists19/09/14 15:04:00 John McDonnell
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Question for Cyclists19/09/14 15:08:00 John McDonnell
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Question for Cyclists19/09/14 15:20:00 Chris Blishen
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Question for Cyclists19/09/14 15:26:00 John McDonnell
      Re:Re:Question for Cyclists19/09/14 15:58:00 Michael Robinson
         Re:Re:Re:Question for Cyclists21/09/14 11:19:00 David Thorpe
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Question for Cyclists21/09/14 12:13:00 Chris Blishen
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Question for Cyclists21/09/14 14:40:00 Andy Brown

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