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Topic: Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Question for Cyclists
Posted by: David Thorpe
Date/Time: 18/09/14 15:48:00


As I've said in one of my other posts I am an occasional cyclist and I do dismount, but to be fair I never cycle at times when it's deserted. I can see the argument under those conditions (although it is still analogous to the "120MPH but nobody's around so it's okay" motorist which I'm not sure I agree with). I started the thread having been hit twice by cyclists in the middle of morning rush hour when it was absolutely swarming with people. And these were not casual cyclists, but rather those in all the lycra and other associated gear. Most of the cyclists had dismounted and were pushing, but not all. And that's what made me think, "when they see the signs what's so different in their heads to that of the other people here who are pushing their bikes and not hitting pedestrians?". I didn't intend to start what is clearly a battle of almost biblical proportion.

Maybe I'm different. I'm by no means a saint but if I were driving and saw a sign, "Slow, caution, children" I would slow down even if there wasn't a child in sight. You actually said it yourself, "a person riding a bicycle will look at the sign and decide for themselves if there really is a problem".  How can that be the right thing to do? Do I get to decide if nicking something from a shop will really be a problem based on my own views of what is or isn't right/wrong? I know that's a tangential analogy but it seems more common with cycling than most other things ("I'll decide if it's safe to run a red light", "I'll decide if it's okay to go wrong way down a one-way", "I'll decide if it's okay to ride on the pavement" etc.

I rode everywhere as a kid and teenager and the norm then was to obey the road signs. I wondered when and why that all changed?

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Question for Cyclists17/09/14 11:41:00 David Thorpe
   Re:Question for Cyclists17/09/14 11:50:00 Oliver Gibb
      Re:Re:Question for Cyclists17/09/14 11:55:00 David Thorpe
         Re:Re:Re:Question for Cyclists17/09/14 12:09:00 Oliver Gibb
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Question for Cyclists17/09/14 13:31:00 Nick Mason
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Question for Cyclists17/09/14 13:43:00 Jonathan Bingham
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Question for Cyclists17/09/14 15:11:00 Pete Mayes
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Question for Cyclists17/09/14 13:56:00 David Thorpe
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Question for Cyclists17/09/14 14:12:00 Will Watson
      Re:Re:Question for Cyclists17/09/14 12:06:00 Nick Mason
         Re:Re:Re:Question for Cyclists17/09/14 13:31:00 Michael Brown
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Question for Cyclists17/09/14 13:44:00 Charlotte Kasner
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Question for Cyclists17/09/14 14:41:00 Jonathan Bingham
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Question for Cyclists17/09/14 14:03:00 Richard Greenhough
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Question for Cyclists17/09/14 14:59:00 Andrew Cumming
   Re:Question for Cyclists17/09/14 13:34:00 Adrian Irving
   Re:Question for Cyclists17/09/14 13:36:00 James Robinson
      Re:Re:Question for Cyclists17/09/14 13:50:00 James Robinson
   Re:Question for Cyclists17/09/14 13:44:00 Sean Wales
      Re:Re:Question for Cyclists17/09/14 14:11:00 Bob Guyett
         Re:Re:Re:Question for Cyclists18/09/14 12:33:00 Kim Rugg
      Re:Re:Question for Cyclists17/09/14 14:13:00 David Roberts
         Re:Re:Re:Question for Cyclists17/09/14 14:43:00 Richard Greenhough
   Re:Question for Cyclists17/09/14 14:14:00 Andy Rooney
   Re:Question for Cyclists17/09/14 14:32:00 Adrian Irving
      Re:Re:Question for Cyclists17/09/14 14:55:00 Pete Mayes
         Re:Re:Re:Question for Cyclists17/09/14 14:57:00 James Robinson
         Re:Re:Re:Question for Cyclists17/09/14 15:05:00 Pete Mayes
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Question for Cyclists17/09/14 15:33:00 Richard Greenhough
         Re:Re:Re:Question for Cyclists17/09/14 15:06:00 David Thorpe
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Question for Cyclists17/09/14 15:20:00 Pete Mayes
         Re:Re:Re:Question for Cyclists17/09/14 15:49:00 Nick Mason
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Question for Cyclists17/09/14 15:55:00 Pete Mayes
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Question for Cyclists17/09/14 16:06:00 Nick Mason
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Question for Cyclists17/09/14 16:11:00 Pete Mayes
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Question for Cyclists17/09/14 17:11:00 Andy Brown
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Question for Cyclists17/09/14 18:22:00 Michael Brown
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Question for Cyclists17/09/14 18:51:00 David Thorpe
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Question for Cyclists18/09/14 10:07:00 Jonathan Bingham
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Question for Cyclists18/09/14 11:09:00 Will Watson
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Question for Cyclists18/09/14 14:11:00 David Thorpe
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Question for Cyclists18/09/14 14:26:00 Chris Blishen
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Question for Cyclists18/09/14 14:28:00 Will Watson
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Question for Cyclists18/09/14 14:57:00 Chris Blishen
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Question for Cyclists18/09/14 15:34:00 Jonathan Bingham
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Question for Cyclists18/09/14 15:48:00 David Thorpe
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Question for Cyclists18/09/14 16:25:00 Jonathan Bingham
                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Question for Cyclists18/09/14 17:39:00 David Thorpe
                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Question for Cyclists19/09/14 09:50:00 Jonathan Bingham
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Question for Cyclists18/09/14 17:31:00 Richard Greenhough
                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Question for Cyclists18/09/14 17:37:00 Jonathan Bingham
                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Question for Cyclists18/09/14 17:42:00 David Thorpe
                        anuver apology from Maisie....17/09/14 18:23:00 Stuart Kerr
                           Re:anuver apology from Maisie....17/09/14 18:35:00 Pete Mayes
                           The iSign17/09/14 18:36:00 Michael Brown
                              Bruno Bozetto.....17/09/14 21:37:00 Jim Lawes
   Re:Question for Cyclists17/09/14 23:23:00 David Marles
      Re:Re:Question for Cyclists18/09/14 08:35:00 James Robinson
         Re:Re:Re:Question for Cyclists18/09/14 09:02:00 Maggie Dodge
   Re : Cyclists Dismount18/09/14 09:15:00 Richard Greenhough
      Re:Re : Cyclists Dismount18/09/14 11:45:00 Dave Robertson
         Re:Re:Re : Cyclists Dismount18/09/14 11:51:00 Richard Greenhough
            Re:Re:Re:Re : Cyclists Dismount18/09/14 12:21:00 Chris Blishen
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re : Cyclists Dismount18/09/14 13:19:00 James Robinson
            Re:Re:Re:Re : Cyclists Dismount18/09/14 12:26:00 Dave Robertson
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re : Cyclists Dismount18/09/14 13:10:00 Jonathan Bingham
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re : Cyclists Dismount18/09/14 13:30:00 Dave Robertson
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re : Cyclists Dismount18/09/14 13:42:00 Chris Blishen
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re : Cyclists Dismount18/09/14 13:52:00 Richard Greenhough
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re : Cyclists Dismount18/09/14 14:02:00 Michael Brown
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re : Cyclists Dismount18/09/14 14:04:00 Keith Iddon
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re : Cyclists Dismount18/09/14 14:06:00 Richard Greenhough
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re : Cyclists Dismount18/09/14 16:23:00 Michael Brown
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re : Cyclists Dismount18/09/14 23:41:00 Al Webber
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re : Cyclists Dismount19/09/14 08:48:00 James Robinson
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re : Cyclists Dismount19/09/14 09:11:00 Colin Jordan
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re : Cyclists Dismount19/09/14 10:09:00 Andrew Parkinson
   Re:Question for Cyclists19/09/14 10:22:00 Chris Blishen
      Re:Re:Question for Cyclists19/09/14 11:07:00 Chris Blishen
         Re:Re:Re:Question for Cyclists19/09/14 11:23:00 Will Watson
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Question for Cyclists19/09/14 11:28:00 Chris Blishen
   Re:Question for Cyclists19/09/14 14:35:00 John McDonnell
      Re:Re:Question for Cyclists19/09/14 14:57:00 Richard Greenhough
         Re:Re:Re:Question for Cyclists19/09/14 15:04:00 John McDonnell
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Question for Cyclists19/09/14 15:08:00 John McDonnell
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Question for Cyclists19/09/14 15:20:00 Chris Blishen
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Question for Cyclists19/09/14 15:26:00 John McDonnell
      Re:Re:Question for Cyclists19/09/14 15:58:00 Michael Robinson
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            Re:Re:Re:Re:Question for Cyclists21/09/14 12:13:00 Chris Blishen
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Question for Cyclists21/09/14 14:40:00 Andy Brown

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