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Topic: Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Question for Cyclists
Posted by: David Thorpe
Date/Time: 17/09/14 18:51:00

Here's the bit I don't get. And by the way I say this as a very rare motorist (20,000 miles in 8 years), an occasional cyclist, a regular walker, runner and user by preference of public transport.

When I drive my car if I deliberately speed I might say to myself, "road's clear, should never be a 30/50/70, blah blah" but I never question the fact that I am breaking the law/rules and if I get caught I would expect to get fined and would never be able to justify to a magistrate that the speed limit there is too low.

If I speeded by mistake, as I think we all have done from time to time, I would still expect to be nicked.

A common 'excuse' after the London riots and looting was that the 'shops could afford to lose it". No harm no foul. That is also often used as an excuse for robbery. Nobody buys it.

I can't think of any blatant disregard of rules/regulations where this is generally acknowledged as an okay thing to do and where the perpetrator thinks they have the right to decide level of risk/harm and act based on that rather than the rule.

That's why I asked the question originally. If you don't see a sign that's one thing. If you do but chose to ignore it then you have made a conscious decision to say "it's safe I will ignore" or "that doesn't apply to me because I don't want the hassle of moving my leg from one side of the frame to the other and then back again later". And it's just an odd anarchic attitude that nobody else seems to find strange.

And I guess if it only happened when the streets/roads/paths were deserted then I could understand some of the logicóbut still wouldn't agree with it any more than I would say speeding at 120 mph at night on an open road is okay. But as I said originally this happens every second of every day on really crowded places and where it is obvious it would be better for the pedestrians if the cyclists dismounted. And as the majority do, I was intrigued as to the thought process of those that don't. And I am still not much the wiser other than "we know best".

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TopicDate PostedPosted By
Question for Cyclists17/09/14 11:41:00 David Thorpe
   Re:Question for Cyclists17/09/14 11:50:00 Oliver Gibb
      Re:Re:Question for Cyclists17/09/14 11:55:00 David Thorpe
         Re:Re:Re:Question for Cyclists17/09/14 12:09:00 Oliver Gibb
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Question for Cyclists17/09/14 13:31:00 Nick Mason
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Question for Cyclists17/09/14 13:43:00 Jonathan Bingham
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Question for Cyclists17/09/14 15:11:00 Pete Mayes
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Question for Cyclists17/09/14 13:56:00 David Thorpe
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Question for Cyclists17/09/14 14:12:00 Will Watson
      Re:Re:Question for Cyclists17/09/14 12:06:00 Nick Mason
         Re:Re:Re:Question for Cyclists17/09/14 13:31:00 Michael Brown
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Question for Cyclists17/09/14 13:44:00 Charlotte Kasner
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Question for Cyclists17/09/14 14:41:00 Jonathan Bingham
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Question for Cyclists17/09/14 14:03:00 Richard Greenhough
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Question for Cyclists17/09/14 14:59:00 Andrew Cumming
   Re:Question for Cyclists17/09/14 13:34:00 Adrian Irving
   Re:Question for Cyclists17/09/14 13:36:00 James Robinson
      Re:Re:Question for Cyclists17/09/14 13:50:00 James Robinson
   Re:Question for Cyclists17/09/14 13:44:00 Sean Wales
      Re:Re:Question for Cyclists17/09/14 14:11:00 Bob Guyett
         Re:Re:Re:Question for Cyclists18/09/14 12:33:00 Kim Rugg
      Re:Re:Question for Cyclists17/09/14 14:13:00 David Roberts
         Re:Re:Re:Question for Cyclists17/09/14 14:43:00 Richard Greenhough
   Re:Question for Cyclists17/09/14 14:14:00 Andy Rooney
   Re:Question for Cyclists17/09/14 14:32:00 Adrian Irving
      Re:Re:Question for Cyclists17/09/14 14:55:00 Pete Mayes
         Re:Re:Re:Question for Cyclists17/09/14 14:57:00 James Robinson
         Re:Re:Re:Question for Cyclists17/09/14 15:05:00 Pete Mayes
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Question for Cyclists17/09/14 15:33:00 Richard Greenhough
         Re:Re:Re:Question for Cyclists17/09/14 15:06:00 David Thorpe
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Question for Cyclists17/09/14 15:20:00 Pete Mayes
         Re:Re:Re:Question for Cyclists17/09/14 15:49:00 Nick Mason
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Question for Cyclists17/09/14 15:55:00 Pete Mayes
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Question for Cyclists17/09/14 16:06:00 Nick Mason
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Question for Cyclists17/09/14 16:11:00 Pete Mayes
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Question for Cyclists17/09/14 17:11:00 Andy Brown
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Question for Cyclists17/09/14 18:22:00 Michael Brown
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Question for Cyclists17/09/14 18:51:00 David Thorpe
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Question for Cyclists18/09/14 10:07:00 Jonathan Bingham
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Question for Cyclists18/09/14 11:09:00 Will Watson
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Question for Cyclists18/09/14 14:11:00 David Thorpe
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Question for Cyclists18/09/14 14:26:00 Chris Blishen
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Question for Cyclists18/09/14 14:28:00 Will Watson
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Question for Cyclists18/09/14 14:57:00 Chris Blishen
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Question for Cyclists18/09/14 15:34:00 Jonathan Bingham
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Question for Cyclists18/09/14 15:48:00 David Thorpe
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Question for Cyclists18/09/14 16:25:00 Jonathan Bingham
                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Question for Cyclists18/09/14 17:39:00 David Thorpe
                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Question for Cyclists19/09/14 09:50:00 Jonathan Bingham
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Question for Cyclists18/09/14 17:31:00 Richard Greenhough
                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Question for Cyclists18/09/14 17:37:00 Jonathan Bingham
                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Question for Cyclists18/09/14 17:42:00 David Thorpe
                        anuver apology from Maisie....17/09/14 18:23:00 Stuart Kerr
                           Re:anuver apology from Maisie....17/09/14 18:35:00 Pete Mayes
                           The iSign17/09/14 18:36:00 Michael Brown
                              Bruno Bozetto.....17/09/14 21:37:00 Jim Lawes
   Re:Question for Cyclists17/09/14 23:23:00 David Marles
      Re:Re:Question for Cyclists18/09/14 08:35:00 James Robinson
         Re:Re:Re:Question for Cyclists18/09/14 09:02:00 Maggie Dodge
   Re : Cyclists Dismount18/09/14 09:15:00 Richard Greenhough
      Re:Re : Cyclists Dismount18/09/14 11:45:00 Dave Robertson
         Re:Re:Re : Cyclists Dismount18/09/14 11:51:00 Richard Greenhough
            Re:Re:Re:Re : Cyclists Dismount18/09/14 12:21:00 Chris Blishen
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re : Cyclists Dismount18/09/14 13:19:00 James Robinson
            Re:Re:Re:Re : Cyclists Dismount18/09/14 12:26:00 Dave Robertson
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re : Cyclists Dismount18/09/14 13:10:00 Jonathan Bingham
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re : Cyclists Dismount18/09/14 13:30:00 Dave Robertson
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re : Cyclists Dismount18/09/14 13:42:00 Chris Blishen
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re : Cyclists Dismount18/09/14 13:52:00 Richard Greenhough
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re : Cyclists Dismount18/09/14 14:02:00 Michael Brown
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re : Cyclists Dismount18/09/14 14:04:00 Keith Iddon
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re : Cyclists Dismount18/09/14 14:06:00 Richard Greenhough
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re : Cyclists Dismount18/09/14 16:23:00 Michael Brown
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re : Cyclists Dismount18/09/14 23:41:00 Al Webber
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re : Cyclists Dismount19/09/14 08:48:00 James Robinson
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re : Cyclists Dismount19/09/14 09:11:00 Colin Jordan
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re : Cyclists Dismount19/09/14 10:09:00 Andrew Parkinson
   Re:Question for Cyclists19/09/14 10:22:00 Chris Blishen
      Re:Re:Question for Cyclists19/09/14 11:07:00 Chris Blishen
         Re:Re:Re:Question for Cyclists19/09/14 11:23:00 Will Watson
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Question for Cyclists19/09/14 11:28:00 Chris Blishen
   Re:Question for Cyclists19/09/14 14:35:00 John McDonnell
      Re:Re:Question for Cyclists19/09/14 14:57:00 Richard Greenhough
         Re:Re:Re:Question for Cyclists19/09/14 15:04:00 John McDonnell
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Question for Cyclists19/09/14 15:08:00 John McDonnell
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Question for Cyclists19/09/14 15:20:00 Chris Blishen
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Question for Cyclists19/09/14 15:26:00 John McDonnell
      Re:Re:Question for Cyclists19/09/14 15:58:00 Michael Robinson
         Re:Re:Re:Question for Cyclists21/09/14 11:19:00 David Thorpe
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Question for Cyclists21/09/14 12:13:00 Chris Blishen
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Question for Cyclists21/09/14 14:40:00 Andy Brown

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