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Topic: Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Another vote for the oppressed..
Posted by: Stewart Dean
Date/Time: 24/05/13 11:11:00

I'm going to cool off after this response on this thread as it's getting unmanageable. By all means post a response but please don't be offended if I don't respond.

So the subject appears to be - If the Bible teaches a clear absolute truth then why are there so many different versions of Christianity and why are there other religions?

So laurance counters with....

"Your premise is that God calls everyone and that everyone will accept Christian teaching. This is not the case."

So only 'special' people are called by God. Now I'm sure that Jesus said a few times that all men where created equal. Let me google that...

Galatians 3:28
"There is neither Jew nor Gentile, neither slave nor free, nor is there male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus."

So what is the criterea for being 'choosen' and is being 'choosen' unique to your version of Christianity?

"So the person who God intends to be converted will, when hearing Bible teaching, repent and believe. "

I'll take that as the case - we still have the issue that different people get called in different ways and believe different things. All those choosen should believe the same thing - right? For now let's ignore those that are not called, like myself. Although be aware I do not hate Christians and, because I am not choosen then God's words don't look like gods words but the moral plays of an earlier time.

I think my questions stand. Why, if people are choosen by gods words, to those who feel they are called by god beleive radically different things? Does that mean the majority of people who are called arn't called by just believe they are called?

Let's move onto the next thing.  I said that for most people the existance of god is a side show to the idea of community. You asked for evidence. This being a human issue I can tell you that when the atheists and humanists I know attend a church they often want to return because of the sense of community. Speaking to my christian friends they often tell me that's the reason why they return. Admitidly the people I know tend to have a liberal bias but they do come from across the economic and cultural spectrum but these include people who effectively are professionally religious.

So when you say it's not so - that goes against those I have talked to. It's your word against theirs. Also, in this case, if there are multiple views then no one view is absolutely true. For many going to church is about choosing to be part of a 'club'. You may say that's not how Christianity works but real life Christians disagree with that point of view.

So again we come back to your view not being the same as other Christians who will also claim to have been called and converted.

Now, last bit, on which bits do you select. For example you say stoning is... ' OT theocracy of Israel.'  Okay - how do you determine that?

You then say..

"The Bible never commands or endorses slavery. Show me chapter and verse where it does. "

It does and I did. I won't repeat it. The bible says you may keep slaves. By all means say that this is historical for the same reasons as above but then how could you tell which is which.  If it requires God to guide you through the bible then why doesn't he just communicate directly?

"There are plenty of Christians - and quite a few top scientists who take an old earth, evolution perspective."

There are, I know this and they would also disagree on your views on homosexuality. But there are also those who think the world is 3000 years old. And they will claim to be 'real' Christians.

I am not out to get Christianity. I am questioning you view that you, somehow, have an absolute version of it  and homosexuality is a sin within that view.

Lastly.

" Christianity is not about what we do to be right with God but what He has done for us."

So therefore we don't have to follow the commands of God and he just selects a few people and that's that?  No point praying etc.,.

Again I know others who would disagree that point of view and say that you worship god through your actions, not just in the act of believing.

The question remains - what makes your version more correct than others. We've worked out it's not the Bible as you can't explain why some bits are applicable and some arn't anymore. We also know it's not because you're choosen because other who have been choosen have different views. It only takes one person who has a different view to yours to disprove that idea.

Put it like this.  We have a car park with 8 red cars. You say to me 'all cars are red'. From what we can see that would be true. Then we get a blue car enter the car park. I can now say, absolutely, that all cars are not red.  Your response, I guess, would be that it's not a real car.

See my point?




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                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Equal marriage22/05/13 19:14:00 Nikki Howard
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Equal marriage22/05/13 19:20:00 Michael Brown
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Equal marriage22/05/13 19:25:00 Pete Mayes
         Re:Re:Re:Equal marriage24/05/13 00:31:00 Lynne Bruce
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Equal marriage24/05/13 11:34:00 Michael Brown
      Re:Re:Equal marriage22/05/13 08:43:00 Thomas Barry
         Re:Re:Re:Equal marriage22/05/13 10:11:00 Huw Burford-Taylor
            Adrian Trett... the author of the original motion on Equal marriage...22/05/13 10:14:00 Laurence Truett
               Re:Adrian Trett... the author of the original motion on Equal marriage...22/05/13 10:22:00 Julian Pavey
                  Re:Re:Adrian Trett... the author of the original motion on Equal marriage...22/05/13 10:27:00 Laurence Truett
                     Re:Re:Re:Adrian Trett... the author of the original motion on Equal marriage...22/05/13 10:33:00 Julian Pavey
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Adrian Trett... the author of the original motion on Equal marriage...22/05/13 10:35:00 Laurence Truett
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Adrian Trett... the author of the original motion on Equal marriage...22/05/13 10:49:00 Julian Pavey
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Adrian Trett... the author of the original motion on Equal marriage...22/05/13 10:53:00 Laurence Truett
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Adrian Trett... the author of the original motion on Equal marriage...22/05/13 11:09:00 Julian Pavey
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Adrian Trett... the author of the original motion on Equal marriage...22/05/13 11:26:00 Laurence Truett
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Adrian Trett... the author of the original motion on Equal marriage...22/05/13 10:55:00 Neil Muller
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Adrian Trett... the author of the original motion on Equal marriage...22/05/13 10:56:00 Laurence Truett
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Adrian Trett... the author of the original motion on Equal marriage...22/05/13 11:05:00 Huw Burford-Taylor
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Adrian Trett... the author of the original motion on Equal marriage...22/05/13 11:11:00 Neil Muller
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Adrian Trett... the author of the original motion on Equal marriage...22/05/13 11:16:00 Laurence Truett
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Adrian Trett... the author of the original motion on Equal marriage...22/05/13 11:21:00 Laurence Truett
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Adrian Trett... the author of the original motion on Equal marriage...22/05/13 11:26:00 Richard Greenhough
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Adrian Trett... the author of the original motion on Equal marriage...22/05/13 12:12:00 Laurence Truett
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Adrian Trett... the author of the original motion on Equal marriage...22/05/13 12:22:00 Neil Muller
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Adrian Trett... the author of the original motion on Equal marriage...22/05/13 12:37:00 Richard Greenhough
                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Adrian Trett... the author of the original motion on Equal marriage...22/05/13 13:41:00 Laurence Truett
                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Adrian Trett... the author of the original motion on Equal marriage...22/05/13 13:47:00 Richard Greenhough
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Adrian Trett... the author of the original motion on Equal marriage...22/05/13 14:17:00 Richard Greenhough
                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Adrian Trett... the author of the original motion on Equal marriage...23/05/13 13:58:00 Laurence Truett
                                                   Re:Jesus' marriage23/05/13 14:20:00 Richard Greenhough
                                                      Re:Re:Jesus' marriage23/05/13 14:42:00 Laurence Truett
                                                         Re:Re:Re:Jesus' marriage23/05/13 14:49:00 Richard Greenhough
                                                            Re:Re:Re:Re:Jesus' marriage23/05/13 14:56:00 Laurence Truett
                                                               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Jesus' marriage23/05/13 14:58:00 Richard Greenhough
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Adrian Trett... the author of the original motion on Equal marriage...22/05/13 11:49:00 Neil Muller
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Adrian Trett... the author of the original motion on Equal marriage...22/05/13 12:05:00 Vanessa Smith
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Adrian Trett... the author of the original motion on Equal marriage...22/05/13 12:09:00 Laurence Truett
                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Adrian Trett... the author of the original motion on Equal marriage...22/05/13 12:45:00 Stewart Dean
                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Adrian Trett... the author of the original motion on Equal marriage...22/05/13 13:47:00 Laurence Truett
                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Adrian Trett... the author of the original motion on Equal marriage...23/05/13 14:01:00 Stewart Dean
                                                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Adrian Trett... the author of the original motion on Equal marriage...23/05/13 14:30:00 Laurence Truett
                                                            Re:Understanding history, ecclesiology and theology23/05/13 14:41:00 Richard Greenhough
                                                               Re:Re:Understanding history, ecclesiology and theology23/05/13 14:44:00 Laurence Truett
                                                                  Re:Re:Re:Understanding history, ecclesiology and theology23/05/13 14:57:00 Richard Greenhough
                                                                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Understanding history, ecclesiology and theology23/05/13 15:07:00 Laurence Truett
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Adrian Trett... the author of the original motion on Equal marriage...22/05/13 12:25:00 Laurence Truett
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Adrian Trett... the author of the original motion on Equal marriage...22/05/13 12:30:00 Neil Muller
                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Adrian Trett... the author of the original motion on Equal marriage...22/05/13 13:30:00 Laurence Truett
                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Adrian Trett... the author of the original motion on Equal marriage...22/05/13 13:49:00 Richard Greenhough
                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Adrian Trett... the author of the original motion on Equal marriage...22/05/13 13:52:00 Laurence Truett
                                                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Adrian Trett... the author of the original motion on Equal marriage...22/05/13 14:02:00 Richard Greenhough
                                                            Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Adrian Trett... the author of the original motion on Equal marriage...23/05/13 13:42:00 Laurence Truett
                                                               Re:What is a church ?23/05/13 14:26:00 Richard Greenhough
                                                                  Re:Re:What is a church ?23/05/13 14:39:00 Laurence Truett
                                                                     Re:Re:Re:What is a church ?23/05/13 14:43:00 Richard Greenhough
                                                                        Re:Re:Re:Re:What is a church ?23/05/13 14:46:00 Laurence Truett
                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Adrian Trett... the author of the original motion on Equal marriage...22/05/13 14:09:00 Neil Muller
                                                      Neil - is this a church in your eyes? http://thechurchlondon.com23/05/13 13:55:00 Laurence Truett
                                                         Re:Neil - is this a church in your eyes? http://thechurchlondon.com23/05/13 15:16:00 Oliver Gibb
                                                            Re:Re:Neil - is this a church in your eyes? http://thechurchlondon.com23/05/13 15:22:00 Laurence Truett
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Adrian Trett... the author of the original motion on Equal marriage...22/05/13 12:47:00 Stewart Dean
                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Adrian Trett... the author of the original motion on Equal marriage...22/05/13 13:46:00 Laurence Truett
                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Adrian Trett... the author of the original motion on Equal marriage...22/05/13 17:45:00 Stewart Dean
                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Adrian Trett... the author of the original motion on Equal marriage...23/05/13 14:04:00 Laurence Truett
                                                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Adrian Trett... the author of the original motion on Equal marriage...23/05/13 14:12:00 Stewart Dean
                                                            Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Adrian Trett... the author of the original motion on Equal marriage...23/05/13 14:36:00 Laurence Truett
                                                               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Adrian Trett... the author of the original motion on Equal marriage...23/05/13 16:37:00 Richard Greenhough
                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Adrian Trett... the author of the original motion on Equal marriage...23/05/13 14:08:00 Laurence Truett
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Adrian Trett... the author of the original motion on Equal marriage...22/05/13 12:08:00 Huw Burford-Taylor
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Adrian Trett... the author of the original motion on Equal marriage...22/05/13 13:33:00 Laurence Truett
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Adrian Trett... the author of the original motion on Equal marriage...22/05/13 13:53:00 Huw Burford-Taylor
                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Adrian Trett... the author of the original motion on Equal marriage...22/05/13 14:01:00 Laurence Truett
                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Adrian Trett... the author of the original motion on Equal marriage...22/05/13 14:06:00 Huw Burford-Taylor
                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Adrian Trett... the author of the original motion on Equal marriage...23/05/13 09:30:00 Stewart Dean
                                                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Adrian Trett... the author of the original motion on Equal marriage...23/05/13 09:49:00 Huw Burford-Taylor
                                                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Adrian Trett... the author of the original motion on Equal marriage...23/05/13 14:33:00 Laurence Truett
                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Adrian Trett... the author of the original motion on Equal marriage...23/05/13 13:48:00 Laurence Truett
                                                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Adrian Trett... the author of the original motion on Equal marriage...23/05/13 14:35:00 Huw Burford-Taylor
                                                         Re:What the Gospels don't say......23/05/13 14:36:00 Richard Greenhough
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Adrian Trett... the author of the original motion on Equal marriage...22/05/13 17:53:00 Stewart Dean
                                                Stew - the absolute relativist... a self defeater if I ever hear done...23/05/13 14:11:00 Laurence Truett
                                                   Re:Stew - the absolute relativist... a self defeater if I ever hear done...23/05/13 19:10:00 Stewart Dean
                                                      Re:Re:Stew - the absolute relativist... a self defeater if I ever hear done...07/06/13 15:11:00 Laurence Truett
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Adrian Trett... the author of the original motion on Equal marriage...22/05/13 12:41:00 Stewart Dean
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Adrian Trett... the author of the original motion on Equal marriage...22/05/13 13:44:00 Laurence Truett
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Adrian Trett... the author of the original motion on Equal marriage...22/05/13 13:57:00 Richard Greenhough
                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Adrian Trett... the author of the original motion on Equal marriage...23/05/13 13:37:00 Laurence Truett
                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Adrian Trett... the author of the original motion on Equal marriage...23/05/13 13:51:00 Stewart Dean
                                                   Re:Through the Looking Glass23/05/13 14:32:00 Richard Greenhough
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Adrian Trett... the author of the original motion on Equal marriage...22/05/13 14:03:00 Huw Burford-Taylor
                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Adrian Trett... the author of the original motion on Equal marriage...23/05/13 13:44:00 Laurence Truett
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Adrian Trett... the author of the original motion on Equal marriage...22/05/13 17:49:00 Stewart Dean
                        Another vote for the oppressed..22/05/13 10:35:00 Stuart Kerr
                           Re:Another vote for the oppressed..22/05/13 11:04:00 bobby osborne
                              Re:Re:Another vote for the oppressed..22/05/13 12:14:00 Michael Brown
                                 Re:Re:Re:Another vote for the oppressed..22/05/13 12:51:00 Stewart Dean
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Another vote for the oppressed..22/05/13 13:06:00 Michael Brown
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Another vote for the oppressed..22/05/13 13:14:00 Neil Muller
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Another vote for the oppressed..22/05/13 13:24:00 Stewart Dean
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Another vote for the oppressed..22/05/13 13:29:00 bobby osborne
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Another vote for the oppressed..22/05/13 13:30:00 Michael Brown
                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Another vote for the oppressed..22/05/13 13:33:00 Claudia Jachtmann
                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Another vote for the oppressed..22/05/13 13:48:00 Michael Brown
                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Another vote for the oppressed..22/05/13 13:58:00 Stewart Dean
                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Another vote for the oppressed..23/05/13 13:39:00 Laurence Truett
                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Another vote for the oppressed..23/05/13 14:06:00 Stewart Dean
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Another vote for the oppressed..22/05/13 13:53:00 Stewart Dean
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Another vote for the oppressed..22/05/13 13:50:00 Nikki Howard
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Another vote for the oppressed..22/05/13 13:56:00 Laurence Truett
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Another vote for the oppressed..22/05/13 14:01:00 Stewart Dean
                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Another vote for the oppressed..22/05/13 14:12:00 Richard Greenhough
                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Another vote for the oppressed..22/05/13 14:25:00 Stewart Dean
                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Another vote for the oppressed..23/05/13 13:57:00 Laurence Truett
                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Another vote for the oppressed..23/05/13 14:03:00 Stewart Dean
                                                         Stew - a little bit of theological advice in terms of interpreting the Bible...23/05/13 14:29:00 Laurence Truett
                                                            Re:Stew - a little bit of theological advice in terms of interpreting the Bible...23/05/13 17:00:00 Stewart Dean
                                                               slavery23/05/13 18:07:00 Oliver Gibb
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Another vote for the oppressed..22/05/13 14:03:00 Claudia Jachtmann
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Another vote for the oppressed..22/05/13 14:08:00 Nikki Howard
                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Another vote for the oppressed..22/05/13 14:25:00 Madeleine Hazard
                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Another vote for the oppressed..22/05/13 14:39:00 Nikki Howard
                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Another vote for the oppressed..22/05/13 14:40:00 Michael Brown
                                                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Another vote for the oppressed..22/05/13 15:20:00 Nikki Howard
                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Another vote for the oppressed..22/05/13 14:41:00 Richard Greenhough
                                                         W4 gay imperialism22/05/13 15:29:00 Stuart Kerr
                                                            Re:W4 gay imperialism22/05/13 15:46:00 Michael Brown
                                                               Re:Re:W4 gay imperialism22/05/13 16:01:00 bobby osborne
                                                               Re:Re:W4 gay imperialism22/05/13 16:09:00 Claudia Jachtmann
                                                                  Re:Re:Re:W4 gay imperialism22/05/13 16:19:00 Stuart Kerr
                                                                     Re:Re:Re:Re:W4 gay imperialism22/05/13 16:38:00 bobby osborne
                                                                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:W4 gay imperialism22/05/13 17:36:00 Stuart Kerr
                                                                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:W4 gay imperialism22/05/13 18:40:00 Nikki Howard
                                                                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:W4 gay imperialism22/05/13 19:37:00 bobby osborne
                                                                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:W4 gay imperialism22/05/13 19:50:00 Nikki Howard
                                                                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:W4 gay imperialism22/05/13 19:53:00 bobby osborne
                                                                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:W4 gay imperialism22/05/13 20:05:00 Nikki Howard
                                                                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:W4 gay imperialism22/05/13 20:17:00 bobby osborne
                                                                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:W4 gay imperialism22/05/13 20:23:00 Nikki Howard
                                                                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:W4 gay imperialism22/05/13 21:15:00 Richard Greenhough
                                                                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:W4 gay imperialism22/05/13 21:24:00 Nikki Howard
                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Another vote for the oppressed..23/05/13 13:51:00 Laurence Truett
                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Another vote for the oppressed..23/05/13 14:06:00 Stewart Dean
                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Another vote for the oppressed..23/05/13 14:17:00 Laurence Truett
                                                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Another vote for the oppressed..23/05/13 14:31:00 Michael Brown
                                                            Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Another vote for the oppressed..23/05/13 14:52:00 Nikki Howard
                                                               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Another vote for the oppressed..23/05/13 15:40:00 Julian Pavey
                                                                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Another vote for the oppressed..23/05/13 15:42:00 Pete Mayes
                                                                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Another vote for the oppressed..23/05/13 16:09:00 Laurence Truett
                                                               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Another vote for the oppressed..24/05/13 10:36:00 Stewart Dean
                                                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Another vote for the oppressed..23/05/13 15:51:00 Stewart Dean
                                                            Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Another vote for the oppressed..23/05/13 15:57:00 Stuart Kerr
                                                               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Another vote for the oppressed..23/05/13 16:28:00 bobby osborne
                                                               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Another vote for the oppressed..24/05/13 10:34:00 Stewart Dean
                                                            Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Another vote for the oppressed..23/05/13 16:24:00 Laurence Truett
                                                               Re:"These laws do not apply" 23/05/13 16:42:00 Richard Greenhough
                                                                  Re:Re:"These laws do not apply" 23/05/13 17:08:00 Julian Pavey
                                                                     Re:Re:Re:Bible Contradictions23/05/13 18:19:00 Nikki Howard
                                                               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Another vote for the oppressed..23/05/13 20:41:00 Oliver Gibb
                                                                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Another vote for the oppressed..23/05/13 21:18:00 Nikki Howard
                                                                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Another vote for the oppressed..24/05/13 00:58:00 Georgina Flint
                                                                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Another vote for the oppressed..24/05/13 01:26:00 Nikki Howard
                                                                           Laurence the time traveller?24/05/13 10:06:00 Oliver Gibb
                                                                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Another vote for the oppressed..07/06/13 15:06:00 Laurence Truett
                                                                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Another vote for the oppressed..07/06/13 15:08:00 Laurence Truett
                                                               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Another vote for the oppressed..24/05/13 11:11:00 Stewart Dean
                                                                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Another vote for the oppressed..24/05/13 12:38:00 bobby osborne
                                                                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Another vote for the oppressed..24/05/13 12:48:00 Stuart Kerr
                                                                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Another vote for the oppressed..24/05/13 13:08:00 Adam James
                                                                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Another vote for the oppressed..24/05/13 13:13:00 Stewart Dean
                                                                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Another vote for the oppressed..24/05/13 13:21:00 Michael Brown
                                                                           another sickening tale of oppression24/05/13 14:05:00 Stuart Kerr
                                                                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Another vote for the oppressed..24/05/13 14:10:00 Richard Greenhough
                                                                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Another vote for the oppressed..24/05/13 14:14:00 Stewart Dean
                                                                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Another vote for the oppressed..24/05/13 16:21:00 Pete Mayes
                                                                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Another vote for the oppressed..24/05/13 16:14:00 Chris Andrews
                                                                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Another vote for the oppressed..24/05/13 16:17:00 Michael Brown
                                                                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Another vote for the oppressed..24/05/13 17:35:00 Nikki Howard
                                                                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Another vote for the oppressed..24/05/13 17:55:00 Michael Brown
                                                                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Another vote for the oppressed..24/05/13 17:58:00 Nikki Howard
                                                                                          beware foreign travel..25/05/13 17:30:00 Stuart Kerr
                                                                                             Re:beware foreign travel..25/05/13 17:45:00 Keith Iddon
                                                                                             Re:beware foreign travel..25/05/13 18:12:00 Claudia Jachtmann
                                                                                                Re:Re:beware foreign travel..25/05/13 22:35:00 Alastair Banton
                                                                                                   Re:Re:Re:beware foreign travel..25/05/13 23:02:00 Claudia Jachtmann
                                                                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:beware foreign travel..25/05/13 23:10:00 Claudia Jachtmann
                                                                                                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:beware foreign travel..26/05/13 00:31:00 Keith Iddon
                                                                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Another vote for the oppressed..07/06/13 15:04:00 Laurence Truett
                                                                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Another vote for the oppressed..07/06/13 15:15:00 David Roberts
                                                                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Another vote for the oppressed..07/06/13 15:31:00 Andy Pease
                                                                     Re:Sheep, goats and geeps07/06/13 16:00:00 Richard Greenhough
                                                                        Re:Re:Sheep, goats and geeps07/06/13 16:16:00 Keith Iddon
                                                                           Re:Re:Re:Sheep, goats and geeps07/06/13 17:19:00 Laurence Truett
                                                                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Sheep, goats and geeps07/06/13 17:24:00 Keith Iddon
                                                                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Sheep, goats and geeps07/06/13 17:43:00 Richard Greenhough
                                                                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Sheep, goats and geeps07/06/13 19:19:00 Laurence Truett
                                                                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Sheep, goats and geeps07/06/13 19:40:00 Richard Greenhough
                                                                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Sheep, goats and geeps07/06/13 19:46:00 Laurence Truett
                                                                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Sheep, goats and geeps07/06/13 20:58:00 Richard Greenhough
                                                                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Sheep, goats and geeps07/06/13 21:55:00 Laurence Truett
                                                                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Sheep, goats and geeps08/06/13 09:16:00 Richard Greenhough
                                                                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Sheep, goats and geeps07/06/13 21:27:00 C Wynne
                                                                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Sheep, goats and geeps07/06/13 17:43:00 Andy Pease

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